Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEELBEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

I would say the shop guys or the folks that lined up the spring over
were wizards to get it that stable with no tire burn.

My CJ7's front end was all replaced in 2000, but I have YJ shackles on
so that tosses 'my' alignment out which likely makes mine more twitchy
or prone to the wobble.

I know it sure doesn't take a lot of ice or mud on the wheels before I
need to stop and clean them....

Mike

Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Well I'll have to take it on faith from the alignment shop that it was done
> properly. How much wear the components have is hard to say. Everything is
> still tight with no slop so I guess you could say the wear is minimal.
> Then again, if you've got big tires and wobble problems along with a bunch
> of sloppy worn out front end components, it's hardly fair to call it a
> tire/stabilizer problem.
>
> All I can tell you is my experience. I haven't had a stabilizer for a
> couple years now and never missed it when it came off.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426A686E.E4BD3E1F@sympatico.ca...
> > Then you have the alignment off or have 'perfect' tires and components
> > with no wear yet.
> >
> > Driving like that is suicide up here in slush country, we get the death
> > wobble from slush or snow sticking to rims and that is with 'good'
> > stabilizers.
> >

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

Don't get me wrong, I get uneven wear for sure, but nothing unexpected or
excessive and damn sure nothing worse than any other 4X4 I've owned. If my
wheels get packed with mud or snow I'll also get a handful of vibration, but
I have never ever gotten anything that could be considered "death wobble",
not even remotely. When/if that happens I make sure to clean out the rims
and end of vibration.

Now way back about 1981 I went to purchase a truck when I was living in Cali
and THAT bad boy did have a serious case. So bad that when the shimmy
started it would progress to the point that the entire front end of the
truck would get airborne one side at a time. Drivers' side up in the air
and BAM, hit the ground then the passenger side the same way, rinse /
repeat. Scared the living beejeezus out of me the first time it occurred.
I REALLY wanted that truck so I tried my best to figure it out without
dropping any serious coin but never did. Looking back I'd say it had
something to do with the lift and probably the improper execution thereof,
but at the time I didn't really know boo about the mechanics of it all.
Bummed me out to give it back to the dealer but such is life.

I did the SOA myself and took pains allow for proper pinion angles and
caster and such. I "tried" to get away with a standard driveshaft in the
rear but it vibrated like nobodies business so I had to bust out the blue
tip wrench, relocate the perches and then pony up the greenbacks for a CV
style rear shaft. Live and learn.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426B9E70.8B186BDE@sympatico.ca...
> I would say the shop guys or the folks that lined up the spring over
> were wizards to get it that stable with no tire burn.
>
> My CJ7's front end was all replaced in 2000, but I have YJ shackles on
> so that tosses 'my' alignment out which likely makes mine more twitchy
> or prone to the wobble.
>
> I know it sure doesn't take a lot of ice or mud on the wheels before I
> need to stop and clean them....
>

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

Don't get me wrong, I get uneven wear for sure, but nothing unexpected or
excessive and damn sure nothing worse than any other 4X4 I've owned. If my
wheels get packed with mud or snow I'll also get a handful of vibration, but
I have never ever gotten anything that could be considered "death wobble",
not even remotely. When/if that happens I make sure to clean out the rims
and end of vibration.

Now way back about 1981 I went to purchase a truck when I was living in Cali
and THAT bad boy did have a serious case. So bad that when the shimmy
started it would progress to the point that the entire front end of the
truck would get airborne one side at a time. Drivers' side up in the air
and BAM, hit the ground then the passenger side the same way, rinse /
repeat. Scared the living beejeezus out of me the first time it occurred.
I REALLY wanted that truck so I tried my best to figure it out without
dropping any serious coin but never did. Looking back I'd say it had
something to do with the lift and probably the improper execution thereof,
but at the time I didn't really know boo about the mechanics of it all.
Bummed me out to give it back to the dealer but such is life.

I did the SOA myself and took pains allow for proper pinion angles and
caster and such. I "tried" to get away with a standard driveshaft in the
rear but it vibrated like nobodies business so I had to bust out the blue
tip wrench, relocate the perches and then pony up the greenbacks for a CV
style rear shaft. Live and learn.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426B9E70.8B186BDE@sympatico.ca...
> I would say the shop guys or the folks that lined up the spring over
> were wizards to get it that stable with no tire burn.
>
> My CJ7's front end was all replaced in 2000, but I have YJ shackles on
> so that tosses 'my' alignment out which likely makes mine more twitchy
> or prone to the wobble.
>
> I know it sure doesn't take a lot of ice or mud on the wheels before I
> need to stop and clean them....
>

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

Don't get me wrong, I get uneven wear for sure, but nothing unexpected or
excessive and damn sure nothing worse than any other 4X4 I've owned. If my
wheels get packed with mud or snow I'll also get a handful of vibration, but
I have never ever gotten anything that could be considered "death wobble",
not even remotely. When/if that happens I make sure to clean out the rims
and end of vibration.

Now way back about 1981 I went to purchase a truck when I was living in Cali
and THAT bad boy did have a serious case. So bad that when the shimmy
started it would progress to the point that the entire front end of the
truck would get airborne one side at a time. Drivers' side up in the air
and BAM, hit the ground then the passenger side the same way, rinse /
repeat. Scared the living beejeezus out of me the first time it occurred.
I REALLY wanted that truck so I tried my best to figure it out without
dropping any serious coin but never did. Looking back I'd say it had
something to do with the lift and probably the improper execution thereof,
but at the time I didn't really know boo about the mechanics of it all.
Bummed me out to give it back to the dealer but such is life.

I did the SOA myself and took pains allow for proper pinion angles and
caster and such. I "tried" to get away with a standard driveshaft in the
rear but it vibrated like nobodies business so I had to bust out the blue
tip wrench, relocate the perches and then pony up the greenbacks for a CV
style rear shaft. Live and learn.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426B9E70.8B186BDE@sympatico.ca...
> I would say the shop guys or the folks that lined up the spring over
> were wizards to get it that stable with no tire burn.
>
> My CJ7's front end was all replaced in 2000, but I have YJ shackles on
> so that tosses 'my' alignment out which likely makes mine more twitchy
> or prone to the wobble.
>
> I know it sure doesn't take a lot of ice or mud on the wheels before I
> need to stop and clean them....
>

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

Don't get me wrong, I get uneven wear for sure, but nothing unexpected or
excessive and damn sure nothing worse than any other 4X4 I've owned. If my
wheels get packed with mud or snow I'll also get a handful of vibration, but
I have never ever gotten anything that could be considered "death wobble",
not even remotely. When/if that happens I make sure to clean out the rims
and end of vibration.

Now way back about 1981 I went to purchase a truck when I was living in Cali
and THAT bad boy did have a serious case. So bad that when the shimmy
started it would progress to the point that the entire front end of the
truck would get airborne one side at a time. Drivers' side up in the air
and BAM, hit the ground then the passenger side the same way, rinse /
repeat. Scared the living beejeezus out of me the first time it occurred.
I REALLY wanted that truck so I tried my best to figure it out without
dropping any serious coin but never did. Looking back I'd say it had
something to do with the lift and probably the improper execution thereof,
but at the time I didn't really know boo about the mechanics of it all.
Bummed me out to give it back to the dealer but such is life.

I did the SOA myself and took pains allow for proper pinion angles and
caster and such. I "tried" to get away with a standard driveshaft in the
rear but it vibrated like nobodies business so I had to bust out the blue
tip wrench, relocate the perches and then pony up the greenbacks for a CV
style rear shaft. Live and learn.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426B9E70.8B186BDE@sympatico.ca...
> I would say the shop guys or the folks that lined up the spring over
> were wizards to get it that stable with no tire burn.
>
> My CJ7's front end was all replaced in 2000, but I have YJ shackles on
> so that tosses 'my' alignment out which likely makes mine more twitchy
> or prone to the wobble.
>
> I know it sure doesn't take a lot of ice or mud on the wheels before I
> need to stop and clean them....
>

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

IN LIFE WE EITHER GROW UP OR WE GET OLDER. The insults and grammar
lessons and the politician just got OLD.
Thanks to the felluz who gave a young buck like me some serious
advice.
As for the insults? Who has time for that? After reading the posts i
cant figure out why someone would sit there posting insults to some
good ol boys just trying to fix thier rigs.
Stabilizers im sure work great, but mine never prevented the death
wobble- meaning the problem lies elsewhere. In theory, if all is well
on the front end, the stabilizer isnt very necessary, more like a
luxury , like power steering over manual- all Luxuries. HOWEVER, i do
no consider a safe vehicle a luxury, an right now driving it has become
an unsafe laborious task, a full time job, not a pleasure. Kind of like
this thread. MY JEEP IS CAUSING ME ENOUGH STRESS, the law is causing me
STRESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE SNIPPING PETTY INSULTS FROM THIER EASY CHAIR.
ENJOY THE CAPS!! LIFE IS TOO SHORT, and id rather be wheeling!!

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

IN LIFE WE EITHER GROW UP OR WE GET OLDER. The insults and grammar
lessons and the politician just got OLD.
Thanks to the felluz who gave a young buck like me some serious
advice.
As for the insults? Who has time for that? After reading the posts i
cant figure out why someone would sit there posting insults to some
good ol boys just trying to fix thier rigs.
Stabilizers im sure work great, but mine never prevented the death
wobble- meaning the problem lies elsewhere. In theory, if all is well
on the front end, the stabilizer isnt very necessary, more like a
luxury , like power steering over manual- all Luxuries. HOWEVER, i do
no consider a safe vehicle a luxury, an right now driving it has become
an unsafe laborious task, a full time job, not a pleasure. Kind of like
this thread. MY JEEP IS CAUSING ME ENOUGH STRESS, the law is causing me
STRESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE SNIPPING PETTY INSULTS FROM THIER EASY CHAIR.
ENJOY THE CAPS!! LIFE IS TOO SHORT, and id rather be wheeling!!

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

IN LIFE WE EITHER GROW UP OR WE GET OLDER. The insults and grammar
lessons and the politician just got OLD.
Thanks to the felluz who gave a young buck like me some serious
advice.
As for the insults? Who has time for that? After reading the posts i
cant figure out why someone would sit there posting insults to some
good ol boys just trying to fix thier rigs.
Stabilizers im sure work great, but mine never prevented the death
wobble- meaning the problem lies elsewhere. In theory, if all is well
on the front end, the stabilizer isnt very necessary, more like a
luxury , like power steering over manual- all Luxuries. HOWEVER, i do
no consider a safe vehicle a luxury, an right now driving it has become
an unsafe laborious task, a full time job, not a pleasure. Kind of like
this thread. MY JEEP IS CAUSING ME ENOUGH STRESS, the law is causing me
STRESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE SNIPPING PETTY INSULTS FROM THIER EASY CHAIR.
ENJOY THE CAPS!! LIFE IS TOO SHORT, and id rather be wheeling!!

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEEL BEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

IN LIFE WE EITHER GROW UP OR WE GET OLDER. The insults and grammar
lessons and the politician just got OLD.
Thanks to the felluz who gave a young buck like me some serious
advice.
As for the insults? Who has time for that? After reading the posts i
cant figure out why someone would sit there posting insults to some
good ol boys just trying to fix thier rigs.
Stabilizers im sure work great, but mine never prevented the death
wobble- meaning the problem lies elsewhere. In theory, if all is well
on the front end, the stabilizer isnt very necessary, more like a
luxury , like power steering over manual- all Luxuries. HOWEVER, i do
no consider a safe vehicle a luxury, an right now driving it has become
an unsafe laborious task, a full time job, not a pleasure. Kind of like
this thread. MY JEEP IS CAUSING ME ENOUGH STRESS, the law is causing me
STRESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE SNIPPING PETTY INSULTS FROM THIER EASY CHAIR.
ENJOY THE CAPS!! LIFE IS TOO SHORT, and id rather be wheeling!!

Re: HOW TO TIGHTEN UP MY CJ FRONT END. TIE ROD, BRACE BOX, WHEELBEARINGS, STILL A DANCER
 

Replace your dampener. If you take it off and shake it you hear the
amount of fluid that has leaked exaggerating the shimmy. If you have
oversized tires, double shock it:
http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:
>
> IN LIFE WE EITHER GROW UP OR WE GET OLDER. The insults and grammar
> lessons and the politician just got OLD.
> Thanks to the felluz who gave a young buck like me some serious
> advice.
> As for the insults? Who has time for that? After reading the posts i
> cant figure out why someone would sit there posting insults to some
> good ol boys just trying to fix thier rigs.
> Stabilizers im sure work great, but mine never prevented the death
> wobble- meaning the problem lies elsewhere. In theory, if all is well
> on the front end, the stabilizer isnt very necessary, more like a
> luxury , like power steering over manual- all Luxuries. HOWEVER, i do
> no consider a safe vehicle a luxury, an right now driving it has become
> an unsafe laborious task, a full time job, not a pleasure. Kind of like
> this thread. MY JEEP IS CAUSING ME ENOUGH STRESS, the law is causing me
> STRESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE SNIPPING PETTY INSULTS FROM THIER EASY CHAIR.
> ENJOY THE CAPS!! LIFE IS TOO SHORT, and id rather be wheeling!!