How much play should a valve stem have?
01-23-2004, 04:55 PM
#2
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-23-2004, 04:55 PM
#3
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-23-2004, 04:55 PM
#4
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if so,
> how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-23-2004, 05:20 PM
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-23-2004, 05:20 PM
#6
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-23-2004, 05:20 PM
#7
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
what I've learned.
Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
questions.
Thanks,
Bill
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
>
> There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
>
> Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
so,
> > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-23-2004, 08:10 PM
#8
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
You are basically talking a valve job. The seals are fairly easy, the
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
01-23-2004, 08:10 PM
#9
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
You are basically talking a valve job. The seals are fairly easy, the
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
01-23-2004, 08:10 PM
#10
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Re: How much play should a valve stem have?
You are basically talking a valve job. The seals are fairly easy, the
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
fix just might not last a long time if the valve guides are sloppy.
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> The compression readings my mechanic gave me were 150 psi across all
> cylinders. I'm getting blue smoke after idling for a few minutes when I
> press on the gas. It doesn't smoke when keep the gas peddle down for a
> length of time. So I'm chasing symptoms of worn valve seals according to
> what I've learned.
>
> Can the brass guides be replaced and if so how much of a job is that? Does
> the head need to be removed to replace the guides? These are exploratory
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40119845.7727AAAB@sympatico.ca...
> > Does this engine have decent compression? How may miles?
> >
> > There shouldn't be very much play in the stems. They are inside brass
> > guides and the guides do wear out. When worn out, it is a waste of time
> > to put new seals in it, they will wear out or pop off fast.
> >
> > Are you chasing symptoms of worn out valves?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > When I compressed the spring the other day I noticed there was some play
> > > when I moved the spring back and forth. Should there be any play and if
> so,
> > > how much? What's the rule of thumb here?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill