How to measure actual lift height?
08-01-2004, 11:38 AM
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Re: How to measure actual lift height?
Hmm. Well, I checked from axle tube to the bumper stop and see about 3
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
08-01-2004, 11:38 AM
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Re: How to measure actual lift height?
Hmm. Well, I checked from axle tube to the bumper stop and see about 3
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
08-01-2004, 11:38 AM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: How to measure actual lift height?
Hmm. Well, I checked from axle tube to the bumper stop and see about 3
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@***.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>
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