How to measure actual lift height?
 

'76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
bumpers/nerfs...
How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of the
upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the stock
measurements sitting in the drive?
I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the steering
linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end (whatever
we call it:)
Appreciate the advice.
Best Regards,
Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Hi Jim,
The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> bumpers/nerfs...
> How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of the
> upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the stock
> measurements sitting in the drive?
> I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the steering
> linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end (whatever
> we call it:)
> Appreciate the advice.
> Best Regards,
> Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Hi Jim,
The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> bumpers/nerfs...
> How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of the
> upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the stock
> measurements sitting in the drive?
> I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the steering
> linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end (whatever
> we call it:)
> Appreciate the advice.
> Best Regards,
> Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Hi Jim,
The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> bumpers/nerfs...
> How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of the
> upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the stock
> measurements sitting in the drive?
> I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the steering
> linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end (whatever
> we call it:)
> Appreciate the advice.
> Best Regards,
> Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Hi Jim,
The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> bumpers/nerfs...
> How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of the
> upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the stock
> measurements sitting in the drive?
> I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the steering
> linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end (whatever
> we call it:)
> Appreciate the advice.
> Best Regards,
> Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little bit
longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of thumb
for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops in
the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear to
replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it looks
like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the new
pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
years when it's time to swap springs again.
Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s with
my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Jim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > bumpers/nerfs...
> > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of
the
> > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
stock
> > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
steering
> > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
(whatever
> > we call it:)
> > Appreciate the advice.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little bit
longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of thumb
for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops in
the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear to
replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it looks
like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the new
pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
years when it's time to swap springs again.
Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s with
my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Jim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > bumpers/nerfs...
> > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of
the
> > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
stock
> > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
steering
> > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
(whatever
> > we call it:)
> > Appreciate the advice.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little bit
longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of thumb
for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops in
the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear to
replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it looks
like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the new
pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
years when it's time to swap springs again.
Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s with
my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Jim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > bumpers/nerfs...
> > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of
the
> > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
stock
> > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
steering
> > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
(whatever
> > we call it:)
> > Appreciate the advice.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little bit
longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of thumb
for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops in
the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear to
replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it looks
like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the new
pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
years when it's time to swap springs again.
Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s with
my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Jim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > bumpers/nerfs...
> > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center of
the
> > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
stock
> > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
steering
> > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
(whatever
> > we call it:)
> > Appreciate the advice.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jim

Re: How to measure actual lift height?
 

Hmm. Well, I checked from axle tube to the bumper stop and see about 3
1/2". What should've shown up as just a tad bit more than 2 1/2" lift (6
1/2" from axle to bumper) looks like it's 3" short! The shackles are maybe
1/2" longer than stock but pretty close to original length in any case. I
can't see them making any appreciable difference toward a 3" sag in year old
leaf springs. The bumper's fairly heavy and that might be it.
Any opinions on a pair of the Old Man Emu Add-a-Leafs? They claim a 20%
increase in spring rate.
I'm planning on a Chevy V-8 with an NV-4500/Dana300.
Does it sound like a good plan to 1) Install a pair of OME Add-a-Leaves,
and, 2) Remove the body lift?
That'd decrease the body roll accentuation and still clear everything,
right?
Jim
"Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote in message
news:ceetj5$2fh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> Aaah, that's right. I remember now about the taper in the pitman arm.
> The shackles are the greasable type and I think they're just a little
bit
> longer but not by much. I could be wrong, though. I know the rule of
thumb
> for shock travel for the Jeep is 4" extended and compressed. It's raining
> like cats and dogs here and I'll have to get out in between the raindrops
in
> the morning. I already ordered some of the Skyjacker shocks since I
> couldn't find the Edelbrock performers. I also got an AGR steering gear
to
> replace the worn out unit and got a dropped pitman arm to boot but it
looks
> like the springs have settled a bit. Oh well, I'll just hang on to the
new
> pitman, buy a stock one for $30 and keep my option of a 4" lift in so many
> years when it's time to swap springs again.
> Gonna put in a Chevy V8 in front of an NV4500. Wonder if I'll need to
> keep the body lift. I really won't need all that lift, though, since I'm
> seriously considering going back to 31" tires. I could go up to 35"'s
with
> my 4.10 gears but the brakes are overtaxed as it is. Decisions.
> Thanks a lot for the 4" tip. Really appreciate it.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:410AF268.CA6FFC9E@cox.net...
> > Hi Jim,
> > The longer shackles quickly take the arch out of even stronger after
> > market springs. The stock shock absorbers:
> >
>
http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup...=1976&LST=3376
> > are #34907 and have eight inches of travel:
> > http://www.monroe.com/pdf/ShockAbsor...sionCharts.pdf so that would
> > mean, the stock height would have about four inches between the top of
> > the axle housing and the rubber bump stop.
> > Put the stock pitman are back on, you'll find the tie rod end to on
> > a taper and can not be installed on the other side.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Drink wrote:
> > >
> > > '76 CJ-7, 2 1/2" Skyjacker leaves, aftermarket shackles & heavy
> > > bumpers/nerfs...
> > > How can I measure the actual lift height? Measure center-to-center
of
> the
> > > upper and lower shock mounting bolts front & back? Anybody know the
> stock
> > > measurements sitting in the drive?
> > > I put a dropped pitman arm on a while back and now see that the
> steering
> > > linkage has been rubbing on the top of the spring. Could I mount the
> > > steering linkage upside-down on top of the pitman and the far end
> (whatever
> > > we call it:)
> > > Appreciate the advice.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jim
>
>