"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c137a$434df0c3$d8449845$14916@FUSE.NET...
> Texas A&M Test utilizing live deer
> http://lutra.tamu.edu/klr/hearing.htm
>
> Other reports
> http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/deerwsle.html
> http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/bio99110.htm
> http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...1/gen01522.htm
> http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublicatio...77/eb1677.html
> http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmj/9705/rm970503.htm
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

Thanks, Billy Ray. We live in the Sierra Nevada, with two twin Jeep Grand
Cherokees, and a bunch of deer, and deer whistles just don't work. Wish
they did, but the deer don't hear any better than we do, in the ultrasonic
range.


> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:7Oj3f.13939$QE1.1693@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> Yeah, I expected this reaction, np. Well, here is my personal evidence,
>> for
>> whatever it is worth.
>>
>> I have the whistles on my vehicles. They fell off (maybe 8 years ago on
>> a
>> Nova) and then within a week I hit 2 deer (glancing blows, no real damage
>> other than a slight dent) [at the same spot on the same road even]. I
>> put
>> them back on and have not had any issue since, except once where a deer
>> managed to time a car coming the other way, missed that one and landed on
>> my
>> hood going the other way [a non-whistle affected event from my position].
>>
>> I see with my eyes how the deer react when I drove my vehicles with the
>> whistles and how they react when I am in different cars. This is what I
>> am
>> going by. I see them freeze and look at me. I see them take less notice
>> without the whistles. So I keep them on and recommend that others do as
>> well, then the others can do what they want. I have no idea if they are
>> doing anything since I cannot hear them, but I see what I see. I have
>> also
>> heard the detractions of them as well. No problem either way, just my
>> perspective.
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:t6udnROm9KL3A9DenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> I don't know if anyone else watches a cable show called Mith Busters but
>>> they tested every thing that has to do with Deer repellant for autos and
>> to
>>> no suprise they all do not work it was very interesting.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Coasty
>>>
>>> Remove the SPOOGE to reply
>>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dik5dg$rmr$1@reader1.panix.com...
>>> > According to tests done at the University of Connecticut "deer
>>> > whistles"
>>> > are a fraud and a waste of money. Those that whistle at all do so at
>>> > a
>>> > frequency well outside the hearing range of deer.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tomes wrote:
>>> >> lol indeed Jeff, although it is illegal to 'spot' deer (with a bright
>>> >> light
>>> >> freezing them) from a moving vehicle here in NJ at least. I
>>> >> regularly
>>> >> have
>>> >> groups of about 15 in my yard at night, so we really need to watch
>>> >> out
>>> >> for
>>> >> them. The deer whistles help too (makes them look up and listen,
>> thereby
>>> >> immobilizing them).
>>> >> Tomes
>>> >>
>>> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:i4ednaGdhbhdzdHeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...
>>> >>
>>> >>>"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:LwW2f.13321$QE1.1323@newsread2.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>The cruise control in my TJ does a real nice job of keeping the
>>> >>>>speed
>>> >>>>nailed
>>> >>>>within a mph of the setting both up and down hills - very much
>>> >>>>better
>>> >>
>>> >> than
>>> >>
>>> >>>>my other auto trans Sienna. I have a lot of 40 MPH hilly stuff here
>> and
>>> >>
>>> >> I
>>> >>
>>> >>>>set it on 42 and just let it go, scouting out for deer.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>If it does feel like it will bog (and I know this coming up as I
>>> >>>>read
>>> >>
>>> >> the
>>> >>
>>> >>>>terrain), I do like Dave M says and hit the cancel button, shift,
>> regain
>>> >>>>speed shift back and hit resume. There is no automatic disconnect.
>>> >>>>Tomes
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>It seems to me that Deer Hunting at 40+ mph misses the spirit of the
>>> >>
>>> >> sport.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.

Earle

"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7Oj3f.13939$QE1.1693@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Yeah, I expected this reaction, np. Well, here is my personal evidence,
for
> whatever it is worth.
>
> I have the whistles on my vehicles. They fell off (maybe 8 years ago on a
> Nova) and then within a week I hit 2 deer (glancing blows, no real damage
> other than a slight dent) [at the same spot on the same road even]. I put
> them back on and have not had any issue since, except once where a deer
> managed to time a car coming the other way, missed that one and landed on
my
> hood going the other way [a non-whistle affected event from my position].
>
> I see with my eyes how the deer react when I drove my vehicles with the
> whistles and how they react when I am in different cars. This is what I
am
> going by. I see them freeze and look at me. I see them take less notice
> without the whistles. So I keep them on and recommend that others do as
> well, then the others can do what they want. I have no idea if they are
> doing anything since I cannot hear them, but I see what I see. I have
also
> heard the detractions of them as well. No problem either way, just my
> perspective.
> Tomes
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:t6udnROm9KL3A9DenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I don't know if anyone else watches a cable show called Mith Busters but
> > they tested every thing that has to do with Deer repellant for autos and
> to
> > no suprise they all do not work it was very interesting.
> >
> > --
> > Coasty
> >
> > Remove the SPOOGE to reply
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:dik5dg$rmr$1@reader1.panix.com...
> > > According to tests done at the University of Connecticut "deer
whistles"
> > > are a fraud and a waste of money. Those that whistle at all do so at
a
> > > frequency well outside the hearing range of deer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tomes wrote:
> > >> lol indeed Jeff, although it is illegal to 'spot' deer (with a bright
> > >> light
> > >> freezing them) from a moving vehicle here in NJ at least. I
regularly
> > >> have
> > >> groups of about 15 in my yard at night, so we really need to watch
out
> > >> for
> > >> them. The deer whistles help too (makes them look up and listen,
> thereby
> > >> immobilizing them).
> > >> Tomes
> > >>
> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:i4ednaGdhbhdzdHeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...
> > >>
> > >>>"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:LwW2f.13321$QE1.1323@newsread2.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>>The cruise control in my TJ does a real nice job of keeping the
speed
> > >>>>nailed
> > >>>>within a mph of the setting both up and down hills - very much
better
> > >>
> > >> than
> > >>
> > >>>>my other auto trans Sienna. I have a lot of 40 MPH hilly stuff here
> and
> > >>
> > >> I
> > >>
> > >>>>set it on 42 and just let it go, scouting out for deer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If it does feel like it will bog (and I know this coming up as I
read
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >>>>terrain), I do like Dave M says and hit the cancel button, shift,
> regain
> > >>>>speed shift back and hit resume. There is no automatic disconnect.
> > >>>>Tomes
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>It seems to me that Deer Hunting at 40+ mph misses the spirit of the
> > >>
> > >> sport.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
>

 

They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.

Earle

"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7Oj3f.13939$QE1.1693@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Yeah, I expected this reaction, np. Well, here is my personal evidence,
for
> whatever it is worth.
>
> I have the whistles on my vehicles. They fell off (maybe 8 years ago on a
> Nova) and then within a week I hit 2 deer (glancing blows, no real damage
> other than a slight dent) [at the same spot on the same road even]. I put
> them back on and have not had any issue since, except once where a deer
> managed to time a car coming the other way, missed that one and landed on
my
> hood going the other way [a non-whistle affected event from my position].
>
> I see with my eyes how the deer react when I drove my vehicles with the
> whistles and how they react when I am in different cars. This is what I
am
> going by. I see them freeze and look at me. I see them take less notice
> without the whistles. So I keep them on and recommend that others do as
> well, then the others can do what they want. I have no idea if they are
> doing anything since I cannot hear them, but I see what I see. I have
also
> heard the detractions of them as well. No problem either way, just my
> perspective.
> Tomes
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:t6udnROm9KL3A9DenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I don't know if anyone else watches a cable show called Mith Busters but
> > they tested every thing that has to do with Deer repellant for autos and
> to
> > no suprise they all do not work it was very interesting.
> >
> > --
> > Coasty
> >
> > Remove the SPOOGE to reply
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:dik5dg$rmr$1@reader1.panix.com...
> > > According to tests done at the University of Connecticut "deer
whistles"
> > > are a fraud and a waste of money. Those that whistle at all do so at
a
> > > frequency well outside the hearing range of deer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tomes wrote:
> > >> lol indeed Jeff, although it is illegal to 'spot' deer (with a bright
> > >> light
> > >> freezing them) from a moving vehicle here in NJ at least. I
regularly
> > >> have
> > >> groups of about 15 in my yard at night, so we really need to watch
out
> > >> for
> > >> them. The deer whistles help too (makes them look up and listen,
> thereby
> > >> immobilizing them).
> > >> Tomes
> > >>
> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:i4ednaGdhbhdzdHeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...
> > >>
> > >>>"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:LwW2f.13321$QE1.1323@newsread2.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>>The cruise control in my TJ does a real nice job of keeping the
speed
> > >>>>nailed
> > >>>>within a mph of the setting both up and down hills - very much
better
> > >>
> > >> than
> > >>
> > >>>>my other auto trans Sienna. I have a lot of 40 MPH hilly stuff here
> and
> > >>
> > >> I
> > >>
> > >>>>set it on 42 and just let it go, scouting out for deer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If it does feel like it will bog (and I know this coming up as I
read
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >>>>terrain), I do like Dave M says and hit the cancel button, shift,
> regain
> > >>>>speed shift back and hit resume. There is no automatic disconnect.
> > >>>>Tomes
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>It seems to me that Deer Hunting at 40+ mph misses the spirit of the
> > >>
> > >> sport.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
>

 

They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.

Earle

"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7Oj3f.13939$QE1.1693@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Yeah, I expected this reaction, np. Well, here is my personal evidence,
for
> whatever it is worth.
>
> I have the whistles on my vehicles. They fell off (maybe 8 years ago on a
> Nova) and then within a week I hit 2 deer (glancing blows, no real damage
> other than a slight dent) [at the same spot on the same road even]. I put
> them back on and have not had any issue since, except once where a deer
> managed to time a car coming the other way, missed that one and landed on
my
> hood going the other way [a non-whistle affected event from my position].
>
> I see with my eyes how the deer react when I drove my vehicles with the
> whistles and how they react when I am in different cars. This is what I
am
> going by. I see them freeze and look at me. I see them take less notice
> without the whistles. So I keep them on and recommend that others do as
> well, then the others can do what they want. I have no idea if they are
> doing anything since I cannot hear them, but I see what I see. I have
also
> heard the detractions of them as well. No problem either way, just my
> perspective.
> Tomes
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:t6udnROm9KL3A9DenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I don't know if anyone else watches a cable show called Mith Busters but
> > they tested every thing that has to do with Deer repellant for autos and
> to
> > no suprise they all do not work it was very interesting.
> >
> > --
> > Coasty
> >
> > Remove the SPOOGE to reply
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:dik5dg$rmr$1@reader1.panix.com...
> > > According to tests done at the University of Connecticut "deer
whistles"
> > > are a fraud and a waste of money. Those that whistle at all do so at
a
> > > frequency well outside the hearing range of deer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tomes wrote:
> > >> lol indeed Jeff, although it is illegal to 'spot' deer (with a bright
> > >> light
> > >> freezing them) from a moving vehicle here in NJ at least. I
regularly
> > >> have
> > >> groups of about 15 in my yard at night, so we really need to watch
out
> > >> for
> > >> them. The deer whistles help too (makes them look up and listen,
> thereby
> > >> immobilizing them).
> > >> Tomes
> > >>
> > >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:i4ednaGdhbhdzdHeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...
> > >>
> > >>>"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:LwW2f.13321$QE1.1323@newsread2.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>>The cruise control in my TJ does a real nice job of keeping the
speed
> > >>>>nailed
> > >>>>within a mph of the setting both up and down hills - very much
better
> > >>
> > >> than
> > >>
> > >>>>my other auto trans Sienna. I have a lot of 40 MPH hilly stuff here
> and
> > >>
> > >> I
> > >>
> > >>>>set it on 42 and just let it go, scouting out for deer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If it does feel like it will bog (and I know this coming up as I
read
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >>>>terrain), I do like Dave M says and hit the cancel button, shift,
> regain
> > >>>>speed shift back and hit resume. There is no automatic disconnect.
> > >>>>Tomes
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>It seems to me that Deer Hunting at 40+ mph misses the spirit of the
> > >>
> > >> sport.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
>

 

I bet as quiet as you could jack a 30-06, even out of season, they
would be gone.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.
>
> Earle

 

I bet as quiet as you could jack a 30-06, even out of season, they
would be gone.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.
>
> Earle

 

I bet as quiet as you could jack a 30-06, even out of season, they
would be gone.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They do take notice of a good long blast from the horn.
>
> Earle

 

Every once in a while, some town official comes by, and says that the Model
Ts that are parked on the street, have to be tagged with a valid vehicle
license plate. When that happens, "temporary" tags from the county court
house, usually last him a year. One time he was told that he would have to
get a business license, because he had so many cars. He never buys or sells
anything, except at swap meets or what you would call a private sale. The
people that we have working for the town, are even more stupid than our
elected officials. Some of them seem OK, but I figure that they are all
guilty by association.

The tourists love looking at the Model Ts, and talking to the owner.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434D68EE.810CAF9A@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There were pack rats like that here in southern Kalifornia, but
> little by little they were all zoned out by people that moved here and
> then when about converting God's country into the Hell they left behind.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A Model T was the first motorized vehicle to make it from Silverton,
over
> > Cinnamon Pass, to Lake City. There is a fellow in Silverton, who owns
about
> > ten of them, in varying states of repair and restoration. This includes
one
> > with an original snowmobile kit installed. It has a rear tag axle, a
set of
> > chains that goes over both rear tires on each side, and skis where the
front
> > wheels used to be.
> >
> > Earle
>

 

Every once in a while, some town official comes by, and says that the Model
Ts that are parked on the street, have to be tagged with a valid vehicle
license plate. When that happens, "temporary" tags from the county court
house, usually last him a year. One time he was told that he would have to
get a business license, because he had so many cars. He never buys or sells
anything, except at swap meets or what you would call a private sale. The
people that we have working for the town, are even more stupid than our
elected officials. Some of them seem OK, but I figure that they are all
guilty by association.

The tourists love looking at the Model Ts, and talking to the owner.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434D68EE.810CAF9A@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There were pack rats like that here in southern Kalifornia, but
> little by little they were all zoned out by people that moved here and
> then when about converting God's country into the Hell they left behind.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A Model T was the first motorized vehicle to make it from Silverton,
over
> > Cinnamon Pass, to Lake City. There is a fellow in Silverton, who owns
about
> > ten of them, in varying states of repair and restoration. This includes
one
> > with an original snowmobile kit installed. It has a rear tag axle, a
set of
> > chains that goes over both rear tires on each side, and skis where the
front
> > wheels used to be.
> >
> > Earle
>

 

Every once in a while, some town official comes by, and says that the Model
Ts that are parked on the street, have to be tagged with a valid vehicle
license plate. When that happens, "temporary" tags from the county court
house, usually last him a year. One time he was told that he would have to
get a business license, because he had so many cars. He never buys or sells
anything, except at swap meets or what you would call a private sale. The
people that we have working for the town, are even more stupid than our
elected officials. Some of them seem OK, but I figure that they are all
guilty by association.

The tourists love looking at the Model Ts, and talking to the owner.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434D68EE.810CAF9A@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> There were pack rats like that here in southern Kalifornia, but
> little by little they were all zoned out by people that moved here and
> then when about converting God's country into the Hell they left behind.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > A Model T was the first motorized vehicle to make it from Silverton,
over
> > Cinnamon Pass, to Lake City. There is a fellow in Silverton, who owns
about
> > ten of them, in varying states of repair and restoration. This includes
one
> > with an original snowmobile kit installed. It has a rear tag axle, a
set of
> > chains that goes over both rear tires on each side, and skis where the
front
> > wheels used to be.
> >
> > Earle
>