How do I get this tie rod end off?
04-03-2005, 10:00 PM
#21
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
assist!)
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> the whole $120.00 or so part.
>
> They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> side.
>
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
>
> Have you check the power steering fluid?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
> rocking the steering wheel?
YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
assist!)
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> the whole $120.00 or so part.
>
> They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> side.
>
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
>
> Have you check the power steering fluid?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:00 PM
#22
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
assist!)
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> the whole $120.00 or so part.
>
> They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> side.
>
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
>
> Have you check the power steering fluid?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
> rocking the steering wheel?
YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
assist!)
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> the whole $120.00 or so part.
>
> They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> side.
>
> You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> rocking the steering wheel?
>
> Have you check the power steering fluid?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:03 PM
#23
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
By the way, Bill, the pic with the puller... kinda scary. Looks way too
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:03 PM
#24
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
By the way, Bill, the pic with the puller... kinda scary. Looks way too
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:03 PM
#25
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
By the way, Bill, the pic with the puller... kinda scary. Looks way too
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
much like my TJ. Has the rancho stabilizer, Teraflex quick discos, BFG
Muds... wierd... someone from the UK been under there snapping pics? ;-)
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424F907F.E55BB611@***.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I would be thinking more along the lines of bad wheel bearings or
> axle Universal joints making a constant noise. Or maybe the sway bar or
> track bar, if it just makes noise over bumps, or on uneven turns like
> entering a driveway. Bad tie rod ends just make the steering wheel feel
> sloppy, but I can't imagine them making noise. To remove tie rods ends
> from the their tapered press fit, I use a puller:
> http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/technica...010037_JPG.jpg Or
> if you're not saving the parts a pickle fork, and a big M f**kin'
> hammer: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/front...nt-track08.jpg Be
> sure and retorque and key the end you had apart, I've heard of too many
> break loose and spin out.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
>> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
>> could hear the grinding.
>>
>> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
>> the
>> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
>> I'd
>> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>>
>> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> cake.
>> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
>> of
>> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
>> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
>> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> making
>> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
>> if
>> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
>> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> shoot
>> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> that?
>> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:31 PM
#26
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Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:31 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 10:31 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
the wheel...
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
>
> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without power
> assist!)
>
> Eric
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to buy
> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
> >
> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side to
> > side.
> >
> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
> > rocking the steering wheel?
> >
> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> >>
> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the point I
> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other end
> >> could hear the grinding.
> >>
> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link was
> >> the
> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to me,
> >> I'd
> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
> >> cake.
> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it out
> >> of
> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end and
> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie rod.
> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
> >> making
> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and wonder
> >> if
> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at the
> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
> >> shoot
> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
> >> that?
> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good leverage.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 11:14 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
I have been down there and just can't pinpoint it. The first couple of
times I thought it was the balljoint at the top of the (knuckle? Ujoint?) at
the end of the axle behind the wheel. That one leaks grease if you squirt
even a little in it. Doesn't look too easy to replace... but, man, I HATE
to take it to a shop when I don't know what the problem is. Leaves me wide
open to be ripped off -- and it might be something I could do myself!
I had someone else get under there while I turned the wheel, and that's when
they said tie rod end. Either way, the sound seems to be coming from the
passenger side, but you can hear it loud and clear while in the driver's
seat.
I will say that my pump has been a bit noisy lately. Has plenty of fluid
and isn't leaking. Just been a bit... whinier.. than normal. Nothing
obnoxious.
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4250A700.D9794112@sympatico.ca...
> Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
> axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
> would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
> and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
> guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
> the wheel...
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>>
>> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
>> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without
>> power
>> assist!)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
>> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to
>> > buy
>> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
>> >
>> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side
>> > to
>> > side.
>> >
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>> >
>> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Eric wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the
>> >> point I
>> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other
>> >> end
>> >> could hear the grinding.
>> >>
>> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link
>> >> was
>> >> the
>> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to
>> >> me,
>> >> I'd
>> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>> >>
>> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> >> cake.
>> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it
>> >> out
>> >> of
>> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end
>> >> and
>> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie
>> >> rod.
>> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> >> making
>> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and
>> >> wonder
>> >> if
>> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at
>> >> the
>> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> >> shoot
>> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> >> that?
>> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good
>> >> leverage.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE
times I thought it was the balljoint at the top of the (knuckle? Ujoint?) at
the end of the axle behind the wheel. That one leaks grease if you squirt
even a little in it. Doesn't look too easy to replace... but, man, I HATE
to take it to a shop when I don't know what the problem is. Leaves me wide
open to be ripped off -- and it might be something I could do myself!
I had someone else get under there while I turned the wheel, and that's when
they said tie rod end. Either way, the sound seems to be coming from the
passenger side, but you can hear it loud and clear while in the driver's
seat.
I will say that my pump has been a bit noisy lately. Has plenty of fluid
and isn't leaking. Just been a bit... whinier.. than normal. Nothing
obnoxious.
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4250A700.D9794112@sympatico.ca...
> Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
> axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
> would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
> and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
> guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
> the wheel...
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>>
>> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
>> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without
>> power
>> assist!)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
>> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to
>> > buy
>> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
>> >
>> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side
>> > to
>> > side.
>> >
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>> >
>> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Eric wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the
>> >> point I
>> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other
>> >> end
>> >> could hear the grinding.
>> >>
>> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link
>> >> was
>> >> the
>> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to
>> >> me,
>> >> I'd
>> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>> >>
>> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> >> cake.
>> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it
>> >> out
>> >> of
>> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end
>> >> and
>> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie
>> >> rod.
>> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> >> making
>> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and
>> >> wonder
>> >> if
>> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at
>> >> the
>> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> >> shoot
>> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> >> that?
>> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good
>> >> leverage.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE
04-03-2005, 11:14 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: How do I get this tie rod end off?
I have been down there and just can't pinpoint it. The first couple of
times I thought it was the balljoint at the top of the (knuckle? Ujoint?) at
the end of the axle behind the wheel. That one leaks grease if you squirt
even a little in it. Doesn't look too easy to replace... but, man, I HATE
to take it to a shop when I don't know what the problem is. Leaves me wide
open to be ripped off -- and it might be something I could do myself!
I had someone else get under there while I turned the wheel, and that's when
they said tie rod end. Either way, the sound seems to be coming from the
passenger side, but you can hear it loud and clear while in the driver's
seat.
I will say that my pump has been a bit noisy lately. Has plenty of fluid
and isn't leaking. Just been a bit... whinier.. than normal. Nothing
obnoxious.
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4250A700.D9794112@sympatico.ca...
> Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
> axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
> would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
> and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
> guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
> the wheel...
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>>
>> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
>> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without
>> power
>> assist!)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
>> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to
>> > buy
>> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
>> >
>> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side
>> > to
>> > side.
>> >
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>> >
>> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Eric wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the
>> >> point I
>> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other
>> >> end
>> >> could hear the grinding.
>> >>
>> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link
>> >> was
>> >> the
>> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to
>> >> me,
>> >> I'd
>> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>> >>
>> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> >> cake.
>> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it
>> >> out
>> >> of
>> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end
>> >> and
>> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie
>> >> rod.
>> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> >> making
>> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and
>> >> wonder
>> >> if
>> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at
>> >> the
>> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> >> shoot
>> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> >> that?
>> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good
>> >> leverage.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE
times I thought it was the balljoint at the top of the (knuckle? Ujoint?) at
the end of the axle behind the wheel. That one leaks grease if you squirt
even a little in it. Doesn't look too easy to replace... but, man, I HATE
to take it to a shop when I don't know what the problem is. Leaves me wide
open to be ripped off -- and it might be something I could do myself!
I had someone else get under there while I turned the wheel, and that's when
they said tie rod end. Either way, the sound seems to be coming from the
passenger side, but you can hear it loud and clear while in the driver's
seat.
I will say that my pump has been a bit noisy lately. Has plenty of fluid
and isn't leaking. Just been a bit... whinier.. than normal. Nothing
obnoxious.
Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4250A700.D9794112@sympatico.ca...
> Well besides the pump itself there are u-joints at the ends of the front
> axles right behind the wheel. To make a noise when not spinning they
> would have to be seriously seized. You can cut the wheels to the side
> and inspect them. If they are flopping or show tons of rust... Well I
> guess you could just get down there and listen while someone else turns
> the wheel...
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>>
>> YES!! That's the problem!! More obvious when the motor is running, as I
>> can turn the wheel further (33x12.50 MTs don't turn to easily without
>> power
>> assist!)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:424FF944.6CDFC0E7@sympatico.ca...
>> > On the matter of the drag link, it does not come apart. You have to
>> > buy
>> > the whole $120.00 or so part.
>> >
>> > They don't 'grind' when bad, the steering wheel just flops loose side
>> > to
>> > side.
>> >
>> > You can make a grinding noise with the engine off and stopped and
>> > rocking the steering wheel?
>> >
>> > Have you check the power steering fluid?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Eric wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My TJ's been making a lot of noises when steering lately. To the
>> >> point I
>> >> could hold my cell phone out the window and the person on the other
>> >> end
>> >> could hear the grinding.
>> >>
>> >> After much checking, it seemed that the tie rod end at the drag link
>> >> was
>> >> the
>> >> culprit. To be honest, I can't seem to finger it, but a buddy of mine
>> >> crawled under there and swore that was the one. If it were left to
>> >> me,
>> >> I'd
>> >> probably have to replace all of the ones on the passenger side.
>> >>
>> >> Anyhow, getting it out of the drag link just took a minute. Piece of
>> >> cake.
>> >> Loosened the retainer. Again, easy stuff. The problem is getting it
>> >> out
>> >> of
>> >> the tie rod. I've got a pretty long pipe-wrench on the tie rod end
>> >> and
>> >> can't get it to come loose. Seems like the end is stuck in the tie
>> >> rod.
>> >> After playing around with the end itself, I just can't see how that's
>> >> making
>> >> the noise, though. I put it back (since I can't get it out!) and
>> >> wonder
>> >> if
>> >> the noise isn't another ball joint. I think it could be the joint at
>> >> the
>> >> top of the knuckle (the part the caliper attaches to). I know if you
>> >> shoot
>> >> grease into that zerk it comes right out of the dust boot.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts? How do you get a tie rod end out when it's stuck like
>> >> that?
>> >> Honestly, this could be a lack-of-muscle issue, but I had good
>> >> leverage.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE