hooking up plug wires on distributor
#41
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
>Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
>socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
>compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
>installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
>electrode will pointing to position 1.
>
>JimG
Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
"correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
>
>"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>> >cylinder id as follows:
>> >left
>> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>> >8 6 4 2
>> >right
>> >
>> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>>
>> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
>> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
>> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
>> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
>> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
>> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
>> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
>> time when the gears mesh.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!
>
"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!
>If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
>Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
>socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
>compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
>installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor button
>electrode will pointing to position 1.
>
>JimG
Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
"correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
>
>"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the TDC
>> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
>> >cylinder id as follows:
>> >left
>> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
>> >8 6 4 2
>> >right
>> >
>> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
>>
>> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
>> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
>> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
>> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
>> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
>> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
>> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
>> time when the gears mesh.
>>
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!
>
"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!
#42
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
>if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise...
That would be bad... the cylinder needs to be TDC on the compression stroke
for the fire.
JimG
#43
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
>if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise...
That would be bad... the cylinder needs to be TDC on the compression stroke
for the fire.
JimG
#44
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
>if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise...
That would be bad... the cylinder needs to be TDC on the compression stroke
for the fire.
JimG
#45
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
>if I removed every single plug wire
> from the distributor and shifted their position one terminal clockwise
> or counterclockwise...
That would be bad... the cylinder needs to be TDC on the compression stroke
for the fire.
JimG
#46
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
You can drop the distributor, in any position, and determine where position
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
#47
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
You can drop the distributor, in any position, and determine where position
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
#48
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Posts: n/a
Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
You can drop the distributor, in any position, and determine where position
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
#49
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Posts: n/a
Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
You can drop the distributor, in any position, and determine where position
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
1 is, it does not matter. Do you realize that there are two TDC points?
One on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust stroke.
JimG
"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ajr70tdc58s5b16t302tlqou30cn7j08o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
>
> >If you set it TDC on the compression stroke, you will not be 180 deg off.
> >Take #1 plug out (and all the rest, to make it easy to turn with a big
> >socket wrench), and put a cork in the #1 hole, when you get to the
> >compression stroke, it will pop out. Then you need a new rotor button
> >installed. With the cap off, drop the distributor in, and the rotor
button
> >electrode will pointing to position 1.
> >
> >JimG
>
> Yeah... I know exactly how to get the engine to TDC on cylinder #1. I
> don't have any question at all about how to get the engine to TDC for
> cylinder #1. Are you saying there is only exactly one way to install
> the distributor into the engine when the engine is set to TDC for
> clyinder #1? I don't think that's correct. I pretty sure I could
> install it in 2 different ways (each way 180 degrees out of phase with
> the other), but I'm not sure that it will matter. I must not be
> phrasing my question well. Imagine someone pulled your distributor
> out of your engine, removed all plug wires, and spun the shaft around
> a few times at random. You set the engine to TDC for cylinder #1.
> How do you go about putting the distributor back in and hooking up the
> "correct #1 terminal" to #1 cylinder? I think you could get the
> distributor to drop in two different ways, one with the rotor pointing
> in one direction, and the other way with the rotor pointing in the
> exact opposite (180 degrees off) direction. See what I mean?
>
> >
> >
> >"Shaggie" <me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:v6ir70hcgu09d7aliefda8mrgf2gp5tbla@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:12:26 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Position 1 is determined when the rotor cap is pointing to it on the
TDC
> >> >compression stoke. Then it's 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 going CW, with the
> >> >cylinder id as follows:
> >> >left
> >> >7 5 3 1 (front, drivers side)
> >> >8 6 4 2
> >> >right
> >> >
> >> >The Haynes manual shows position 1 adjacent to the vacuum advance.
> >>
> >> But if your whole distributor cap/rotor got burned off and you have no
> >> reference then how do you know where the rotor cap is pointing to?
> >> See what I mean? I know how to put the engine at TDC for cylinder #1,
> >> but then I have to drop the distributor in place. I can't look at the
> >> rotor because it burned into nothingness. :) I'm gonna have to put
> >> the engine at TDC for cylinder #1 and then install the distributor and
> >> it seems like I could either get it right or be 180 degrees out of
> >> time when the gears mesh.
> >>
> >> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> :wq!
> >
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:43:56 -0400, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....
>
>Mike
I'm not positive I follow your explanation, but is what you're saying
that I could just choose a certain terminal on the distributor to be
#1 and wire that one terminal over to cylinder #1 and be sure that
while the rotor is pointing to that terminal that cylinder #1 is at
TDC and then wire the rest of the terminals in order to the correct
cylinders? I *think* that's all there is to it and that that is what
you are saying, but I know it's not always the case, like the VW
example I gave where they have it set up so that the "real" #3
terminal is positioned so that it is slightly retarded to help #3
cylinder run a little cooler. Thanks for the input/information!
>
>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
>> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
>> the engine.
>>
>> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
>> cylinder as you face it.
>>
>> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
>> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>>
>> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
>> needed a special #1 location.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Shaggie wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>> >
>> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> > :wq!
"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!
<romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....
>
>Mike
I'm not positive I follow your explanation, but is what you're saying
that I could just choose a certain terminal on the distributor to be
#1 and wire that one terminal over to cylinder #1 and be sure that
while the rotor is pointing to that terminal that cylinder #1 is at
TDC and then wire the rest of the terminals in order to the correct
cylinders? I *think* that's all there is to it and that that is what
you are saying, but I know it's not always the case, like the VW
example I gave where they have it set up so that the "real" #3
terminal is positioned so that it is slightly retarded to help #3
cylinder run a little cooler. Thanks for the input/information!
>
>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
>> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
>> the engine.
>>
>> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
>> cylinder as you face it.
>>
>> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
>> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
>>
>> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
>> needed a special #1 location.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Shaggie wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>> >
>> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> > :wq!
"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!