Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

I ain't drive'n no Libby in patchy snow!

I'll be the one in the black Fiero going by you at 70 on snow covered I-77 !

We ain't afraid of no snow here in the hills! :-)

JimG

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
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> Roughly 1/6/04 08:46, JimG's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > 55-75+ mph should be no problem in your Libby.
> >
>
> On patchy snow? Please post your driving area and the
> color of your vehicle so I can avoid you like the plague.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:2BDKb.144057$VB2.547466@attbi_s51:

> Roughly 1/6/04 08:36, Barry Bean's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>>
>> Let me be more specific-
>
> Always a good idea.
>>
>> If I'm driving my Jeep Liberty on the interstate in bad weather (i.e.
>> drizzle near freezing, light snow, patchy snow), is it safe to use
>> "full time 4X4" at speeds of 55-75? The manual says I can safely ----
>> in or out of 4wd at up to 55 mph, but makes no mention of a top
>> speed, automatic disengage speed, or other limit on 4X4 at highway
>> speed.
>
> This is probably because the manual mistakenly assumes something
> resembling self-preservation instincts on the part of the driver.

Please. Its not unusual to drive in conditions that allow traffic to flow
at the speed limit, but at the same time warrant extra attention or
efforts to maintain control.

> A full time 4wd can be left engaged at any speed, as it has the
> slippage needed. HOWEVER this does not mean it is anything
> less than insanely reckless, homicidal, and suicidal to actually
> drive at high speeds under degraded weather conditions.

Thanks, that's helpful. Nothing furthers a discussion like having someone
take your comments out of context, assume facts not in evidence, and
attack.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:2BDKb.144057$VB2.547466@attbi_s51:

> Roughly 1/6/04 08:36, Barry Bean's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>>
>> Let me be more specific-
>
> Always a good idea.
>>
>> If I'm driving my Jeep Liberty on the interstate in bad weather (i.e.
>> drizzle near freezing, light snow, patchy snow), is it safe to use
>> "full time 4X4" at speeds of 55-75? The manual says I can safely ----
>> in or out of 4wd at up to 55 mph, but makes no mention of a top
>> speed, automatic disengage speed, or other limit on 4X4 at highway
>> speed.
>
> This is probably because the manual mistakenly assumes something
> resembling self-preservation instincts on the part of the driver.

Please. Its not unusual to drive in conditions that allow traffic to flow
at the speed limit, but at the same time warrant extra attention or
efforts to maintain control.

> A full time 4wd can be left engaged at any speed, as it has the
> slippage needed. HOWEVER this does not mean it is anything
> less than insanely reckless, homicidal, and suicidal to actually
> drive at high speeds under degraded weather conditions.

Thanks, that's helpful. Nothing furthers a discussion like having someone
take your comments out of context, assume facts not in evidence, and
attack.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:2BDKb.144057$VB2.547466@attbi_s51:

> Roughly 1/6/04 08:36, Barry Bean's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>>
>> Let me be more specific-
>
> Always a good idea.
>>
>> If I'm driving my Jeep Liberty on the interstate in bad weather (i.e.
>> drizzle near freezing, light snow, patchy snow), is it safe to use
>> "full time 4X4" at speeds of 55-75? The manual says I can safely ----
>> in or out of 4wd at up to 55 mph, but makes no mention of a top
>> speed, automatic disengage speed, or other limit on 4X4 at highway
>> speed.
>
> This is probably because the manual mistakenly assumes something
> resembling self-preservation instincts on the part of the driver.

Please. Its not unusual to drive in conditions that allow traffic to flow
at the speed limit, but at the same time warrant extra attention or
efforts to maintain control.

> A full time 4wd can be left engaged at any speed, as it has the
> slippage needed. HOWEVER this does not mean it is anything
> less than insanely reckless, homicidal, and suicidal to actually
> drive at high speeds under degraded weather conditions.

Thanks, that's helpful. Nothing furthers a discussion like having someone
take your comments out of context, assume facts not in evidence, and
attack.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:EBDKb.75063$I07.370485@attbi_s53:

>> 55-75+ mph should be no problem in your Libby.
>>
>
> On patchy snow? Please post your driving area and the
> color of your vehicle so I can avoid you like the plague.

The interstates will be full of drivers driving that same speed without
benefit of 4xd, front wd, snow tires, or experience. I'd think you'd
welcome the occasional driver who wants a little extra advantage.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:EBDKb.75063$I07.370485@attbi_s53:

>> 55-75+ mph should be no problem in your Libby.
>>
>
> On patchy snow? Please post your driving area and the
> color of your vehicle so I can avoid you like the plague.

The interstates will be full of drivers driving that same speed without
benefit of 4xd, front wd, snow tires, or experience. I'd think you'd
welcome the occasional driver who wants a little extra advantage.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:EBDKb.75063$I07.370485@attbi_s53:

>> 55-75+ mph should be no problem in your Libby.
>>
>
> On patchy snow? Please post your driving area and the
> color of your vehicle so I can avoid you like the plague.

The interstates will be full of drivers driving that same speed without
benefit of 4xd, front wd, snow tires, or experience. I'd think you'd
welcome the occasional driver who wants a little extra advantage.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> A full time 4x4 doesn't disengage at any speed. That is a part
> time 4x4 mode which should never be used on a highway unless it
> is extremely slippery...enough to keep the driveline from binding
> up. And if the highway is slippery enough to need part time
> 4x4, 55 mph is insane.

I disagree. Just last month I was traveling on I-78 in New Jersey during
the last blizzard we had. I was in 4wd-hi and moving at the speed limit
in 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow (the speed limit is 65).

I had no binding of the drivetrain and was in control of the vehicle.
There were few other cars on the road and whenever I caught up to one
I'd slow down as much as necessary to pass safely.

That was a blast, and I don't consider myself insane. This was no more
reckless than traveling 75mph on the same road in "bumper to bumper"
traffic during a rainstorm- conditions that happen regularly on that road.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> A full time 4x4 doesn't disengage at any speed. That is a part
> time 4x4 mode which should never be used on a highway unless it
> is extremely slippery...enough to keep the driveline from binding
> up. And if the highway is slippery enough to need part time
> 4x4, 55 mph is insane.

I disagree. Just last month I was traveling on I-78 in New Jersey during
the last blizzard we had. I was in 4wd-hi and moving at the speed limit
in 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow (the speed limit is 65).

I had no binding of the drivetrain and was in control of the vehicle.
There were few other cars on the road and whenever I caught up to one
I'd slow down as much as necessary to pass safely.

That was a blast, and I don't consider myself insane. This was no more
reckless than traveling 75mph on the same road in "bumper to bumper"
traffic during a rainstorm- conditions that happen regularly on that road.

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> A full time 4x4 doesn't disengage at any speed. That is a part
> time 4x4 mode which should never be used on a highway unless it
> is extremely slippery...enough to keep the driveline from binding
> up. And if the highway is slippery enough to need part time
> 4x4, 55 mph is insane.

I disagree. Just last month I was traveling on I-78 in New Jersey during
the last blizzard we had. I was in 4wd-hi and moving at the speed limit
in 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow (the speed limit is 65).

I had no binding of the drivetrain and was in control of the vehicle.
There were few other cars on the road and whenever I caught up to one
I'd slow down as much as necessary to pass safely.

That was a blast, and I don't consider myself insane. This was no more
reckless than traveling 75mph on the same road in "bumper to bumper"
traffic during a rainstorm- conditions that happen regularly on that road.