while draggin my new jack around the jeep and tryin to figure out a
spot for mounting it yesterday i stopped at my back bumbper,
,
heres my thought, the tailgate hinges,,
if one was to drill,or weld a 1/2 inch bolt to the hinges,,3 inches
long,
washers and rubber bumpers,
then a 1/2X1 inch bolt welded to the bumper for the jack to sit on,
with rubber pad,
,
itd stand upright and wouldent rattle around, and the bolts could be
drilled for locking,

other then needing to open the tailgate i dont see any other bad in
this setup,
any comments advice?

johnp
ya it fits around my 30 inch tires,









"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message news:<TfTmd.251815$nl.36626@pd7tw3no>...
> That's OK if you don't put your windshield down ...something just looks
> "unsafe" about it ...but a clever spot nonetheless.
>
> --
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ-7
> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>
> "Tookie " <tookie_nospam@***.net> wrote in message
> news:419bfb0e.701988875@news.east.***.net...
> > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:25:59 GMT, tookie_nospam@***.net (Tookie )
> > wrote:
> >
> > go here
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...elee/jack1.jpg
> > Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
> > 88YJ, 4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
> > PosiLock, 4.10s

 

Some folks just miss the obvious....

The lift makes no difference when changing a tire!

You only need a bottle or scissor or my preference a small floor jack to
lift the axle about 2" to change a tire. (my owners manual even points
that out, I know, I know, I am the only one who reads the damn book)

You need to go up about 2' in the air on the bumper with a 'widow maker'
to change a tire.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Isn't that where it usually happens "on the worst of trails"? Consider a
> Jeep with an SOA (no flat place for a bottle) and 35's in a rough position;
> a properly placed Hi-Lift works well. We don't carry OE jacks on our
> modified rides.
>
> Anyway... to each his own. ;-)
>
> JimG
>
> "Jerry Bransford" wrote in message ...
> > Jim I'll go along with most of the except for using a Hi-Lift just to
> > change a tire. Rarely except on the worst of trails is a Hi-Lift the
> > right tool for changing a tire. It's a lot less safe and a lot slower
> > than just using the OE bottle jack. I use my OE jack for my 35" tires
> > and I'm pretty sure it has enough height to get a 37" tire changed as
> > well. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --

 

Some folks just miss the obvious....

The lift makes no difference when changing a tire!

You only need a bottle or scissor or my preference a small floor jack to
lift the axle about 2" to change a tire. (my owners manual even points
that out, I know, I know, I am the only one who reads the damn book)

You need to go up about 2' in the air on the bumper with a 'widow maker'
to change a tire.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Isn't that where it usually happens "on the worst of trails"? Consider a
> Jeep with an SOA (no flat place for a bottle) and 35's in a rough position;
> a properly placed Hi-Lift works well. We don't carry OE jacks on our
> modified rides.
>
> Anyway... to each his own. ;-)
>
> JimG
>
> "Jerry Bransford" wrote in message ...
> > Jim I'll go along with most of the except for using a Hi-Lift just to
> > change a tire. Rarely except on the worst of trails is a Hi-Lift the
> > right tool for changing a tire. It's a lot less safe and a lot slower
> > than just using the OE bottle jack. I use my OE jack for my 35" tires
> > and I'm pretty sure it has enough height to get a 37" tire changed as
> > well. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --

 

Some folks just miss the obvious....

The lift makes no difference when changing a tire!

You only need a bottle or scissor or my preference a small floor jack to
lift the axle about 2" to change a tire. (my owners manual even points
that out, I know, I know, I am the only one who reads the damn book)

You need to go up about 2' in the air on the bumper with a 'widow maker'
to change a tire.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Isn't that where it usually happens "on the worst of trails"? Consider a
> Jeep with an SOA (no flat place for a bottle) and 35's in a rough position;
> a properly placed Hi-Lift works well. We don't carry OE jacks on our
> modified rides.
>
> Anyway... to each his own. ;-)
>
> JimG
>
> "Jerry Bransford" wrote in message ...
> > Jim I'll go along with most of the except for using a Hi-Lift just to
> > change a tire. Rarely except on the worst of trails is a Hi-Lift the
> > right tool for changing a tire. It's a lot less safe and a lot slower
> > than just using the OE bottle jack. I use my OE jack for my 35" tires
> > and I'm pretty sure it has enough height to get a 37" tire changed as
> > well. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --

 

You just flunked 'highlift 101'.

If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
ballistic all by it's self!

Really!

I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
couple years ago.

We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.

Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
off!

They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
that damn thing.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it like
> when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson 1).
> Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap out
> of you. ;-)
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool that
> > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> >
> > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different situations. A
> > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is needed
> to
> > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it is
> most
> > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so you
> can
> > get going again.
> >
> > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> onto
> > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack. There
> > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the vehicle
> can
> > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other is
> > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and the
> > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody. I
> have
> > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a possibility
> > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> maker.
> > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> drop
> > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the barn
> > > where it belongs.
> > >
> > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > barns for new footings.
> > >
> > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my passenger
> > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > somebody wrote:
> > >>
> > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > >> any good mounting tips?
> > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > >>
> > >> johnp
> >
> >

 

You just flunked 'highlift 101'.

If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
ballistic all by it's self!

Really!

I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
couple years ago.

We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.

Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
off!

They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
that damn thing.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it like
> when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson 1).
> Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap out
> of you. ;-)
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool that
> > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> >
> > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different situations. A
> > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is needed
> to
> > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it is
> most
> > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so you
> can
> > get going again.
> >
> > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> onto
> > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack. There
> > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the vehicle
> can
> > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other is
> > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and the
> > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody. I
> have
> > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a possibility
> > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> maker.
> > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> drop
> > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the barn
> > > where it belongs.
> > >
> > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > barns for new footings.
> > >
> > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my passenger
> > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > somebody wrote:
> > >>
> > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > >> any good mounting tips?
> > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > >>
> > >> johnp
> >
> >

 

You just flunked 'highlift 101'.

If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
ballistic all by it's self!

Really!

I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
couple years ago.

We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.

Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
off!

They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
that damn thing.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JimG wrote:
>
> Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it like
> when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson 1).
> Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap out
> of you. ;-)
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool that
> > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> >
> > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different situations. A
> > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is needed
> to
> > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it is
> most
> > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so you
> can
> > get going again.
> >
> > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> onto
> > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack. There
> > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the vehicle
> can
> > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other is
> > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and the
> > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody. I
> have
> > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a possibility
> > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> maker.
> > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> drop
> > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the barn
> > > where it belongs.
> > >
> > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > barns for new footings.
> > >
> > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my passenger
> > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > somebody wrote:
> > >>
> > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > >> any good mounting tips?
> > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > >>
> > >> johnp
> >
> >

 

Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will not
run away.





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419CBC54.451EDE9B@sympatico.ca...
> You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
>
> If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> ballistic all by it's self!
>
> Really!
>
> I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
> couple years ago.
>
> We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
> vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.
>
> Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
> off!
>
> They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
> stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
> that damn thing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it
like
> > when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson
1).
> > Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap
out
> > of you. ;-)
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> > 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> > 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> > 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> > 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> > D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool
that
> > > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> > >
> > > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different
situations. A
> > > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is
needed
> > to
> > > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it
is
> > most
> > > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so
you
> > can
> > > get going again.
> > >
> > > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> > onto
> > > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack.
There
> > > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the
vehicle
> > can
> > > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other
is
> > > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and
the
> > > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody.
I
> > have
> > > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a
possibility
> > > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> > maker.
> > > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> > drop
> > > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the
barn
> > > > where it belongs.
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > > barns for new footings.
> > > >
> > > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my
passenger
> > > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > somebody wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > > >> any good mounting tips?
> > > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > > >>
> > > >> johnp
> > >
> > >

 

Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will not
run away.





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419CBC54.451EDE9B@sympatico.ca...
> You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
>
> If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> ballistic all by it's self!
>
> Really!
>
> I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
> couple years ago.
>
> We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
> vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.
>
> Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
> off!
>
> They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
> stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
> that damn thing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it
like
> > when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson
1).
> > Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap
out
> > of you. ;-)
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> > 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> > 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> > 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> > 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> > D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool
that
> > > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> > >
> > > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different
situations. A
> > > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is
needed
> > to
> > > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it
is
> > most
> > > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so
you
> > can
> > > get going again.
> > >
> > > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> > onto
> > > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack.
There
> > > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the
vehicle
> > can
> > > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other
is
> > > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and
the
> > > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody.
I
> > have
> > > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a
possibility
> > > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> > maker.
> > > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> > drop
> > > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the
barn
> > > > where it belongs.
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > > barns for new footings.
> > > >
> > > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my
passenger
> > > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > somebody wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > > >> any good mounting tips?
> > > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > > >>
> > > >> johnp
> > >
> > >

 

Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will not
run away.





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419CBC54.451EDE9B@sympatico.ca...
> You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
>
> If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> ballistic all by it's self!
>
> Really!
>
> I had that wonderful experience with someone's brand new 'widow maker' a
> couple years ago.
>
> We were cleaning up an off road area and the jack was used to lift up a
> vehicle hulk so a big truck could chain onto it.
>
> Someone bumped the thing and the handle almost took the side of my face
> off!
>
> They cannot safely be left unattended even long enough to get an axle
> stand under them, you must use two people and have one always holding
> that damn thing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Yes, if you let go of the handle on the way down, and don't control it
like
> > when you went up, it can beat the crap out of you (Hi-Lift 101, Lesson
1).
> > Kind of like - if you let go of a running chain saw it can cut the crap
out
> > of you. ;-)
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> > 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> > 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> > 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> > 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> > D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > I agree with Mike in that there is probably not a more dangerous tool
that
> > > can be owned and carried in a Jeep.
> > >
> > > Having said that, it is a very useful tool in many different
situations. A
> > > HiLift is NOT, that's N-O-T, to be used for simple lifting like is
needed
> > to
> > > fix a flat. A HiLift is very useful as an alternative to a winch, it
is
> > most
> > > useful to lift your Jeep so you can put large stuff under a tire so
you
> > can
> > > get going again.
> > >
> > > If a HiLift is used to lift a Jeep so one can perform service, always,
> > > that's A-L-W-A-Y-S put something under the frame and lower the vehicle
> > onto
> > > it so the vehicle will not be in danger of falling off of the jack.
There
> > > are two safety issues relative to HiLift Jacks, one is that the
vehicle
> > can
> > > fall off or the jack will tip over and drop the vehicle, and the other
is
> > > that when attempting to lower the vehicle, the jack can run away and
the
> > > jack handle will flail about violently and seriously injure somebody.
I
> > have
> > > never seen a jack handle kill anybody, but this is obviously a
possibility
> > > because the nick name for a HiLift is exactly as Mike suggests, widow
> > maker.
> > > Your wife can become a widow because the inherently unstable jack will
> > drop
> > > the vehicle on somebody, or the handle will beat the life out of you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message...
> > > > The best place is to hang it on a big assed nail in the back of the
barn
> > > > where it belongs.
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion those 'widow makers' have no business anywhere near a
> > > > Jeep. They are a farm tool made for pulling fence posts and raising
> > > > barns for new footings.
> > > >
> > > > If you need a jack, buy a jack. If you need a winch, they make nice
> > > > hand cable winches. My hydraulic floor jack fits behind my
passenger
> > > > seat tight and the winch tucks in under the seat.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > somebody wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> buying one of these tommorrow,
> > > >> any good mounting tips?
> > > >> are there any mounting brackets one can buy??
> > > >>
> > > >> johnp
> > >
> > >