Stephen Cowell

"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vmp2bag9rccjfb@corp.supernews.com...
> I just wanted to add this. I like fog lights, they make a vehicle look a
bit
> nicer. BUT, fog lights are to be used in the FOG, not while driving
around
> trying to look cool and heading into oncoming traffic. They are to be
> treated just like the high beams, when you are behind someone or driving
> towards someone, shut them OFF. Many people don't read there manuals and
> respect laws on fog lights.
>
> just my opinion, getting tired of being blinded by four lights coming at
me.

One of my pet peeves, too... worst part is that (Texas) law allows
a secondary pair of driving lights... people, turn off your stupid
fog lamps!
__
Steve
..

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

I like to use fog lights because correctly aimed they light the
side of the road just ahead of the car, without it I feel like about to
drive off a cliff as many times there nothing to reflect back at us out
at about a hundred feet as we're driving up, down, and around
California's mountainous roads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> One of my pet peeves, too... worst part is that (Texas) law allows
> a secondary pair of driving lights... people, turn off your stupid
> fog lamps!
> __
> Steve
> .

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

I like to use fog lights because correctly aimed they light the
side of the road just ahead of the car, without it I feel like about to
drive off a cliff as many times there nothing to reflect back at us out
at about a hundred feet as we're driving up, down, and around
California's mountainous roads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> One of my pet peeves, too... worst part is that (Texas) law allows
> a secondary pair of driving lights... people, turn off your stupid
> fog lamps!
> __
> Steve
> .

Carlo Jr.

ditto. I leave my fog lights on when ever my headlights are on - but I have
them aimed so that I don't blind oncoming traffic or the vehicle ahead of
me. They are also the factory, kind of dim, with a flat pattern fog lights.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F6CA2EC.C3D4782C@***.net...
> I like to use fog lights because correctly aimed they light the
> side of the road just ahead of the car, without it I feel like about to
> drive off a cliff as many times there nothing to reflect back at us out
> at about a hundred feet as we're driving up, down, and around
> California's mountainous roads.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > One of my pet peeves, too... worst part is that (Texas) law allows
> > a secondary pair of driving lights... people, turn off your stupid
> > fog lamps!
> > __
> > Steve
> > .

Carlo Jr.

ditto. I leave my fog lights on when ever my headlights are on - but I have
them aimed so that I don't blind oncoming traffic or the vehicle ahead of
me. They are also the factory, kind of dim, with a flat pattern fog lights.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F6CA2EC.C3D4782C@***.net...
> I like to use fog lights because correctly aimed they light the
> side of the road just ahead of the car, without it I feel like about to
> drive off a cliff as many times there nothing to reflect back at us out
> at about a hundred feet as we're driving up, down, and around
> California's mountainous roads.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > One of my pet peeves, too... worst part is that (Texas) law allows
> > a secondary pair of driving lights... people, turn off your stupid
> > fog lamps!
> > __
> > Steve
> > .

Mike Romain

How many light switches have you burned out?

If you are going to run more amps than stock through the stock switch,
you will need a relay or the switch will melt down.

I have to fix this all the time for people. Did a CJ7 last week that
just had halogen lights in instead of stock sealed beams. His switch
melted down. I added a relay for him.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mabar wrote:
>
> On the ’01 or ‘02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high beams,
> follow these instructions:
>
> Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly marked on
> a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
>
> Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly bend
> the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay is
> re-inserted.
>
> Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> either low beam or high beam headlights.
>
> On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You remove
> the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin #1
> (it’s labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
>
> On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright headlights
> are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It’s part #6314 at
> www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along with
> the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament when
> high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and 4-headlight
> systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> Works great.
>
> Tom
>
> "AKJEEPER" <aufevermike@gci.net> wrote in message
> news:vmp242orcmj414@corp.supernews.com...
> > Sorry, I meant to say that it is a 99TJ Sport
> >
> >

Mike Romain

How many light switches have you burned out?

If you are going to run more amps than stock through the stock switch,
you will need a relay or the switch will melt down.

I have to fix this all the time for people. Did a CJ7 last week that
just had halogen lights in instead of stock sealed beams. His switch
melted down. I added a relay for him.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mabar wrote:
>
> On the ’01 or ‘02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high beams,
> follow these instructions:
>
> Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly marked on
> a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
>
> Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly bend
> the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay is
> re-inserted.
>
> Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> either low beam or high beam headlights.
>
> On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You remove
> the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin #1
> (it’s labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
>
> On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright headlights
> are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It’s part #6314 at
> www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along with
> the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament when
> high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and 4-headlight
> systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> Works great.
>
> Tom
>
> "AKJEEPER" <aufevermike@gci.net> wrote in message
> news:vmp242orcmj414@corp.supernews.com...
> > Sorry, I meant to say that it is a 99TJ Sport
> >
> >

Mike Romain

That is against the law in most places. You have to have the low beams
on. They point down anyway so don't reflect too much.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mabar wrote:
>
> Fog lights, if adjusted properly, should never blind anybody. Fog lights
> should be mounted low and if adjusted properly, they throw a low, wide beam
> across the road to help "cut through the fog." Running with properly
> adjusted headlights, and properly adjusted fog lights will not blind
> anybody.
>
> Now, in really dense fog, which is what fog lights are designed for,
> headlights should be turned off. Just run slowly with parking lights and fog
> lights on.
>
> Tom
>
> "Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vmp2bag9rccjfb@corp.supernews.com...
> > I just wanted to add this. I like fog lights, they make a vehicle look a
> bit
> > nicer. BUT, fog lights are to be used in the FOG, not while driving
> around
> > trying to look cool and heading into oncoming traffic. They are to be
> > treated just like the high beams, when you are behind someone or driving
> > towards someone, shut them OFF. Many people don't read there manuals and
> > respect laws on fog lights.
> >
> > just my opinion, getting tired of being blinded by four lights coming at
> me.
> >
> > "AKJEEPER" <aufevermike@gci.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmo13rbt81nl4e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Hey folks,
> > > I gotta question for ya. I replaced my factory fog lights with
> Lightforce
> > > lights but I want them to stay on when I put my high beams on. Anyone
> know
> > > what I need and where to disconnect to keep the lights on when the hi
> > beams
> > > are on?
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

That is against the law in most places. You have to have the low beams
on. They point down anyway so don't reflect too much.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mabar wrote:
>
> Fog lights, if adjusted properly, should never blind anybody. Fog lights
> should be mounted low and if adjusted properly, they throw a low, wide beam
> across the road to help "cut through the fog." Running with properly
> adjusted headlights, and properly adjusted fog lights will not blind
> anybody.
>
> Now, in really dense fog, which is what fog lights are designed for,
> headlights should be turned off. Just run slowly with parking lights and fog
> lights on.
>
> Tom
>
> "Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vmp2bag9rccjfb@corp.supernews.com...
> > I just wanted to add this. I like fog lights, they make a vehicle look a
> bit
> > nicer. BUT, fog lights are to be used in the FOG, not while driving
> around
> > trying to look cool and heading into oncoming traffic. They are to be
> > treated just like the high beams, when you are behind someone or driving
> > towards someone, shut them OFF. Many people don't read there manuals and
> > respect laws on fog lights.
> >
> > just my opinion, getting tired of being blinded by four lights coming at
> me.
> >
> > "AKJEEPER" <aufevermike@gci.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmo13rbt81nl4e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Hey folks,
> > > I gotta question for ya. I replaced my factory fog lights with
> Lightforce
> > > lights but I want them to stay on when I put my high beams on. Anyone
> know
> > > what I need and where to disconnect to keep the lights on when the hi
> > beams
> > > are on?
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

mabar

Hi Mike:

I haven't burned out any switches. If you are referring to the KC Hilites
Quad Beam Kit, it comes with a relay. If you are referring to having the
fogs come on along with the high beams, it works fine, with no problems.

Tom

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F6DC7FC.B761A706@sympatico.ca...
> How many light switches have you burned out?
>
> If you are going to run more amps than stock through the stock switch,
> you will need a relay or the switch will melt down.
>
> I have to fix this all the time for people. Did a CJ7 last week that
> just had halogen lights in instead of stock sealed beams. His switch
> melted down. I added a relay for him.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "AKJEEPER" <aufevermike@gci.net> wrote in message
> > news:vmp242orcmj414@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Sorry, I meant to say that it is a 99TJ Sport
> > >
> > >