John Murphy

I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff

John in Vegas

Mike Romain wrote:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view it
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
> > > strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
> > > That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
> > > some more time.
> >
> > John in Vegas

John Murphy

I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff

John in Vegas

Mike Romain wrote:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view it
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
> > > strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
> > > That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
> > > some more time.
> >
> > John in Vegas

John Murphy

I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff

John in Vegas

Mike Romain wrote:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view it
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
> > > strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
> > > That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
> > > some more time.
> >
> > John in Vegas

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

I just use http://google.com/ as my home page, Edit, Preferences,
Navigator, Location.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Murphy wrote:
>
> I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
> decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff
>
> John in Vegas

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

I just use http://google.com/ as my home page, Edit, Preferences,
Navigator, Location.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Murphy wrote:
>
> I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
> decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff
>
> John in Vegas

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

I just use http://google.com/ as my home page, Edit, Preferences,
Navigator, Location.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Murphy wrote:
>
> I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
> decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff
>
> John in Vegas

Lon

Internet Exploder is a bit more CSS and HTML compliant than Netscape 4.7
ever was, even if IE did then go on to add all sorts of "features" to
allow attackers to take total control of your computer without your
knowledge [oh, say as recently as this week]. No, I never used IE
except for cross-compatibility checking, I used Netscape and if the web
site wouldn't work, it had better have one really good reason I would
want to visit it.

To make a web page that would display even close to identical in both
Netscape 4.7 and IE you would have to do browser checking and cheat and
add "nudges" to all positioning elements on the page and also refrain
from using some very nice features such as odd point and pixel sizes for
fonts.

Plus Netscape 4.7 had a huge GDI resource leak and corruption on the
non-NT based operating systems...to the point that the mozilla folks
released a kewl GDI viewer tool to help debug it.

Mozilla 1.7.13 works as well or better than Netscape 4.7 ever did and
can view HTML mail as something resembling text for those who have such
a problem expressing themselves that they must use pictures, fonts, etc.
rather than simply learning how to write. It has the added advantage of
fully supporting *compliant* CSS and HTML, plus you can put a content
header on your pages to get a quirks mode that is reasonably close to
old 4.x Netscape.

Seamonkey suite is coming along, although I personally use the latest
builds off the alpha branch as being just a tad less buggy than their
released versions.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view i
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
>
>>>OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
>>>strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
>>>That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
>>>some more time.
>>
>>John in Vegas

Lon

Internet Exploder is a bit more CSS and HTML compliant than Netscape 4.7
ever was, even if IE did then go on to add all sorts of "features" to
allow attackers to take total control of your computer without your
knowledge [oh, say as recently as this week]. No, I never used IE
except for cross-compatibility checking, I used Netscape and if the web
site wouldn't work, it had better have one really good reason I would
want to visit it.

To make a web page that would display even close to identical in both
Netscape 4.7 and IE you would have to do browser checking and cheat and
add "nudges" to all positioning elements on the page and also refrain
from using some very nice features such as odd point and pixel sizes for
fonts.

Plus Netscape 4.7 had a huge GDI resource leak and corruption on the
non-NT based operating systems...to the point that the mozilla folks
released a kewl GDI viewer tool to help debug it.

Mozilla 1.7.13 works as well or better than Netscape 4.7 ever did and
can view HTML mail as something resembling text for those who have such
a problem expressing themselves that they must use pictures, fonts, etc.
rather than simply learning how to write. It has the added advantage of
fully supporting *compliant* CSS and HTML, plus you can put a content
header on your pages to get a quirks mode that is reasonably close to
old 4.x Netscape.

Seamonkey suite is coming along, although I personally use the latest
builds off the alpha branch as being just a tad less buggy than their
released versions.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view i
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
>
>>>OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
>>>strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
>>>That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
>>>some more time.
>>
>>John in Vegas

Lon

Internet Exploder is a bit more CSS and HTML compliant than Netscape 4.7
ever was, even if IE did then go on to add all sorts of "features" to
allow attackers to take total control of your computer without your
knowledge [oh, say as recently as this week]. No, I never used IE
except for cross-compatibility checking, I used Netscape and if the web
site wouldn't work, it had better have one really good reason I would
want to visit it.

To make a web page that would display even close to identical in both
Netscape 4.7 and IE you would have to do browser checking and cheat and
add "nudges" to all positioning elements on the page and also refrain
from using some very nice features such as odd point and pixel sizes for
fonts.

Plus Netscape 4.7 had a huge GDI resource leak and corruption on the
non-NT based operating systems...to the point that the mozilla folks
released a kewl GDI viewer tool to help debug it.

Mozilla 1.7.13 works as well or better than Netscape 4.7 ever did and
can view HTML mail as something resembling text for those who have such
a problem expressing themselves that they must use pictures, fonts, etc.
rather than simply learning how to write. It has the added advantage of
fully supporting *compliant* CSS and HTML, plus you can put a content
header on your pages to get a quirks mode that is reasonably close to
old 4.x Netscape.

Seamonkey suite is coming along, although I personally use the latest
builds off the alpha branch as being just a tad less buggy than their
released versions.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> blank page on start.
>
> Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view i
> using the 'page source' in the View box.
>
> I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> edition of the browser.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> John Murphy wrote:
>
>>>OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
>>>strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
>>>That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
>>>some more time.
>>
>>John in Vegas

Mike Romain

That's what I do. It is a decent newsgroup program.

Mike

John Murphy wrote:
>
> I did find some problems with some other sites with this one, so I just
> decided to use this for the JEEP group stuff
>
> John in Vegas
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > The netscape browser 4.7x is now useless because everyone is using the
> > newer microcrap that refuses to talk to it. I just have mine set for a
> > blank page on start.
> >
> > Same for the 4.7x email. If someone using the new microcrap html code
> > sends you an email it will be blank in the body. Billy boy decided if
> > you don't use his crap, then you don't deserve email. You can view it
> > using the 'page source' in the View box.
> >
> > I still use 4.79 for newsgroups, but have the latest 'anniversary'
> > edition of the browser.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > John Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK Bill. I got the 4.7 loaded and the NG running fine, Thanks. Very
> > > > strange, but when netscape loads the homepage, it is really messd up.
> > > > That doesnt matter, just irratating, Maybe I can fix it when I find
> > > > some more time.
> > >
> > > John in Vegas