Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
03-23-2006, 02:25 PM
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Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
problem. Details...
It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
checked and secured, and no change.
We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
`Casper
I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
problem. Details...
It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
checked and secured, and no change.
We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
`Casper
03-23-2006, 02:55 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
03-23-2006, 02:55 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
03-23-2006, 02:55 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Casper wrote:
>
> Ok, this is a hair OT because it's about a ford, but...
>
> I've got a Ford Econoline van (F-150) that is having a hesitation
> problem. Details...
>
> It seems to mainly happens starting when you reach 35mph. It happens
> mainly when you are giving gas... ergo to climb a hill.
>
> So far, we've replaced the rotor and distributor. cap, which were
> oddly black. Within a week, the new ones were also black.. which led
> to replacing the coil as we suspected maybe she was getting 12v
> instead of 6v. That "seemed" to stop the problem for a couple of days,
> but the hesitation came back.So the coil, wires were replaced, grounds
> checked and secured, and no change.
>
> We then tried testing the fuel pressure. We think it might be loosing
> pressure too soon, but we're going to run another test to be sure our
> first results were correct. When the hesitation starts, you can give
> it more gas and it seems to be fine. We're not hearing a miss or
> anything odd. We checked the timing and it is better than we expected.
>
> I finally was able to get my neighbor to smell the little bit of gas
> odor that "occasionally" occurs. What happened here was we turned the
> key on-off-on-off-start and noted the van started instantly, instead
> of the usual delayed start it normally does... and that's when,
> someone other than me, got a wif of gas.
>
> We can't find a leak. Nothing on the ground or along lines that we've
> been able to discover so far. Anyone have any ideas on where to look
> next? We haven't changed the fuel filter yet (got more snow :p) but
> will very soon.. it can't hurt and we're probably overdue (should be
> every 12k). Any ideas welcome and appreciated.
>
> Oh, and please ask questions if you need more info. I try to be
> thorough, but you can't think of everything all the time.
>
> `Casper
03-24-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
Thanks Mike. I'll give that a try.
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-24-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
Thanks Mike. I'll give that a try.
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-24-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Hesitation Question (somewhat OT)
Thanks Mike. I'll give that a try.
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>An EGR valve that is getting carboned up can cause symptoms like that.
>Maybe try it with the EGR unplugged and it's line blocked.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
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