Jo Bo

Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
"bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Thanks again
JoBo

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "dave AKA vwdoc1" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:z6Q%c.14043$FV3.9219@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
> > yeah what DougW says.
> > Make sure your vacuum hoses are good to the MAP sensor and you did not
> > damage wiring to the TPS nor 02 sensor.
> >
> > Pinging could be caused by spark timing too advanced, bad gas, too lean
a
> > mixture or low fuel pressure, bad plug causing a hot spot or maybe even
a
> > vacuum leak to name a few possible causes.
> >
> > BTW what did you do since you were all over the engine?
> > later,
> > dave AKA vwdoc1
> >
>
> Well I dropped the transmission pan to replace the filter. That was
> complicated by the long dipstick/filler tube. I disconnected two
connections
> by the filler tube that were tye wrapped to it. I've rechecked them. Also
> replaced the thermostat, coolant and air temp sensors were both off in
their
> resistance so I've replaced them. I also changed the oil and filter and
had
> put in the recommended amount of "sea foam" about 2 hundred miles
> previously. I used the recommended 10-30 oil. I also have removed one
quart
> and put in lucas oil fortifier. This is the first oil change for me on
this
> car with 140k on it and I believe the oil I drained out contained a large
> amount of "fortifier". I also replaced the distributor a month ago for a
> worn shaft and "think" I got it in correctly. I'm going to retard the
timing
> by one tooth and see if what happens. Anyway to tell if the timing is
> correct? Oil pressure is above 1/2 on the guage, engine is quiet above 1k
> rpms with no or little noise while driving. Only code is "33" then the 55,
> ac fan clutch and the ac works fine. I've not checked fuel pressure yet.
At
> this point I can't tell if it's a ignition knock or a wear knock. It
sounds
> like my jetta tdi with real good fuel (quiet knock) that's why I'm leaning
> towards a ignition knock.
>
> Thanks
> JoBo
>
>

Jo Bo

Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
"bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Thanks again
JoBo

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "dave AKA vwdoc1" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:z6Q%c.14043$FV3.9219@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
> > yeah what DougW says.
> > Make sure your vacuum hoses are good to the MAP sensor and you did not
> > damage wiring to the TPS nor 02 sensor.
> >
> > Pinging could be caused by spark timing too advanced, bad gas, too lean
a
> > mixture or low fuel pressure, bad plug causing a hot spot or maybe even
a
> > vacuum leak to name a few possible causes.
> >
> > BTW what did you do since you were all over the engine?
> > later,
> > dave AKA vwdoc1
> >
>
> Well I dropped the transmission pan to replace the filter. That was
> complicated by the long dipstick/filler tube. I disconnected two
connections
> by the filler tube that were tye wrapped to it. I've rechecked them. Also
> replaced the thermostat, coolant and air temp sensors were both off in
their
> resistance so I've replaced them. I also changed the oil and filter and
had
> put in the recommended amount of "sea foam" about 2 hundred miles
> previously. I used the recommended 10-30 oil. I also have removed one
quart
> and put in lucas oil fortifier. This is the first oil change for me on
this
> car with 140k on it and I believe the oil I drained out contained a large
> amount of "fortifier". I also replaced the distributor a month ago for a
> worn shaft and "think" I got it in correctly. I'm going to retard the
timing
> by one tooth and see if what happens. Anyway to tell if the timing is
> correct? Oil pressure is above 1/2 on the guage, engine is quiet above 1k
> rpms with no or little noise while driving. Only code is "33" then the 55,
> ac fan clutch and the ac works fine. I've not checked fuel pressure yet.
At
> this point I can't tell if it's a ignition knock or a wear knock. It
sounds
> like my jetta tdi with real good fuel (quiet knock) that's why I'm leaning
> towards a ignition knock.
>
> Thanks
> JoBo
>
>

Jo Bo

Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
"bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Thanks again
JoBo

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ebW%c.84413$cT6.12376@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
>
> "dave AKA vwdoc1" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:z6Q%c.14043$FV3.9219@newssvr17.news.prodigy.c om...
> > yeah what DougW says.
> > Make sure your vacuum hoses are good to the MAP sensor and you did not
> > damage wiring to the TPS nor 02 sensor.
> >
> > Pinging could be caused by spark timing too advanced, bad gas, too lean
a
> > mixture or low fuel pressure, bad plug causing a hot spot or maybe even
a
> > vacuum leak to name a few possible causes.
> >
> > BTW what did you do since you were all over the engine?
> > later,
> > dave AKA vwdoc1
> >
>
> Well I dropped the transmission pan to replace the filter. That was
> complicated by the long dipstick/filler tube. I disconnected two
connections
> by the filler tube that were tye wrapped to it. I've rechecked them. Also
> replaced the thermostat, coolant and air temp sensors were both off in
their
> resistance so I've replaced them. I also changed the oil and filter and
had
> put in the recommended amount of "sea foam" about 2 hundred miles
> previously. I used the recommended 10-30 oil. I also have removed one
quart
> and put in lucas oil fortifier. This is the first oil change for me on
this
> car with 140k on it and I believe the oil I drained out contained a large
> amount of "fortifier". I also replaced the distributor a month ago for a
> worn shaft and "think" I got it in correctly. I'm going to retard the
timing
> by one tooth and see if what happens. Anyway to tell if the timing is
> correct? Oil pressure is above 1/2 on the guage, engine is quiet above 1k
> rpms with no or little noise while driving. Only code is "33" then the 55,
> ac fan clutch and the ac works fine. I've not checked fuel pressure yet.
At
> this point I can't tell if it's a ignition knock or a wear knock. It
sounds
> like my jetta tdi with real good fuel (quiet knock) that's why I'm leaning
> towards a ignition knock.
>
> Thanks
> JoBo
>
>

DougW

Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
Also helps to have a timing light.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/

FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
it works well.
http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(

--
DougW

DougW

Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
Also helps to have a timing light.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/

FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
it works well.
http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(

--
DougW

DougW

Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull enough
> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The ones
> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a cracked
> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new manifold.

Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
Also helps to have a timing light.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/

FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
it works well.
http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(

--
DougW

dave AKA vwdoc1

would the timing light help? What would it do?

glad you solved the problem Jo Bo!
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
>> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
>> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull
>> enough
>> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
>> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The
>> ones
>> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
>> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a
>> cracked
>> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new
>> manifold.
>
> Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
> Also helps to have a timing light.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
> it works well.
> http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
> Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
> and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

dave AKA vwdoc1

would the timing light help? What would it do?

glad you solved the problem Jo Bo!
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
>> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
>> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull
>> enough
>> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
>> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The
>> ones
>> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
>> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a
>> cracked
>> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new
>> manifold.
>
> Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
> Also helps to have a timing light.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
> it works well.
> http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
> Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
> and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

dave AKA vwdoc1

would the timing light help? What would it do?

glad you solved the problem Jo Bo!
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Mk60d.10874$OZ6.926@okepread06...
> Jo Bo did pass the time by typing:
>> Thanks Dave and Doug. Problem resolved! A month ago I put in a new
>> distributor and was very carfull to get it back right. Not carefull
>> enough
>> it turns out. (ONE TOOTH OFF) The noise only showed after I went on my
>> "bing" Sunday. I cleaned all the fittings on all the vacume lines. The
>> ones
>> to the map sensor (the thing on the firewall) were mostly blocked. Carb
>> cleaner fixed that! Now it's a quiet as a 140k mile I6 4.0L with a
>> cracked
>> exhaust manifold an be. Next project, a header or at least a new
>> manifold.
>
> Yep. You have to watch that distributor real close.
> Also helps to have a timing light.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> FYI on the Banks manifold. (I had some "fitting" issues) but
> it works well.
> http://members.***.net/douglas.wilson/banks/
> Just a few pics.. I rilly need to do some more for that but I'm lazy
> and running snot out of every hole in my head. :(
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

DougW

dave AKA vwdoc1 did pass the time by typing:
> would the timing light help? What would it do?

Even though the base timing isn't adjustable you
can still look at the timing mark and see where it
lined up. In this case it would have been too far
advanced. (about 9 degrees)

--
DougW