Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
(on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
(From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
Operation)
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"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> not on a 4 litre
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
>> A failed coil will kill 2 cylinders.
>>
>> In message <hDqVe.248$H62.42@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, "Stephen
>> Cowell"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> >news:qbf9i1l4ofcqsea1f6ion8ee3i0pjr77po@4ax.com.. .
>> >> They sure as hell do!
>> >> In message <43249F9E.6F32B587@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>> >> >> Don't each of the coil packs handle 2 cylinders? Wouldn't both
>> >misfire?
>> >
>> >Only an open circuit would misfire both
>> >plugs on a lost-spark ignition... a fouled
>> >plug merely helps the other plug fire.
>> >__
>> >Steve
>> >.
>> >
>
1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
(on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
(From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
Operation)
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"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> not on a 4 litre
>
> bllsht wrote:
>
>> A failed coil will kill 2 cylinders.
>>
>> In message <hDqVe.248$H62.42@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, "Stephen
>> Cowell"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> >news:qbf9i1l4ofcqsea1f6ion8ee3i0pjr77po@4ax.com.. .
>> >> They sure as hell do!
>> >> In message <43249F9E.6F32B587@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>> >> >> Don't each of the coil packs handle 2 cylinders? Wouldn't both
>> >misfire?
>> >
>> >Only an open circuit would misfire both
>> >plugs on a lost-spark ignition... a fouled
>> >plug merely helps the other plug fire.
>> >__
>> >Steve
>> >.
>> >
>
#62
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#63
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#64
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#65
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>
> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>
> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>
> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>
> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
> Operation)
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#66
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
My point is that if you have a bad coil you will have 2 cylinders
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#67
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
My point is that if you have a bad coil you will have 2 cylinders
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#68
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
My point is that if you have a bad coil you will have 2 cylinders
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
My point is that if you have a bad coil you will have 2 cylinders
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
mis-firing.
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43277D42.CF948CEE@***.net...
> Just like my old Harley: http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/36harley.jpg
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> The 3 coils dual-fire the spark plugs on cylinders
>>
>> 1–6, 2–5 and/or 3–4. When one cylinder is being fired
>>
>> (on compression stroke), the spark to the opposite
>>
>> cylinder is being wasted (on exhaust stroke).
>>
>> (From page D-3 from CD Manual for 2000 WJ Ignition System Description and
>> Operation)
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#70
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Re: Help with rough idle and acceleration - TIA
Oh, so the waste spark system on the 4.0L different than the waste spark system
on any other engine? Please explain.
In message <432748DA.30349B43@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>not on a 4 litre
>
>bllsht wrote:
>
>> A failed coil will kill 2 cylinders.
>>
>> In message <hDqVe.248$H62.42@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, "Stephen Cowell"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> >news:qbf9i1l4ofcqsea1f6ion8ee3i0pjr77po@4ax.com.. .
>> >> They sure as hell do!
>> >> In message <43249F9E.6F32B587@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>> >> >> Don't each of the coil packs handle 2 cylinders? Wouldn't both
>> >misfire?
>> >
>> >Only an open circuit would misfire both
>> >plugs on a lost-spark ignition... a fouled
>> >plug merely helps the other plug fire.
>> >__
>> >Steve
>> >.
>> >
on any other engine? Please explain.
In message <432748DA.30349B43@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>not on a 4 litre
>
>bllsht wrote:
>
>> A failed coil will kill 2 cylinders.
>>
>> In message <hDqVe.248$H62.42@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, "Stephen Cowell"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> >news:qbf9i1l4ofcqsea1f6ion8ee3i0pjr77po@4ax.com.. .
>> >> They sure as hell do!
>> >> In message <43249F9E.6F32B587@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>> >> >> Don't each of the coil packs handle 2 cylinders? Wouldn't both
>> >misfire?
>> >
>> >Only an open circuit would misfire both
>> >plugs on a lost-spark ignition... a fouled
>> >plug merely helps the other plug fire.
>> >__
>> >Steve
>> >.
>> >