gavilan1

Greetings. The starter in my 1993 YJ (4.0, auto, non-ABS) suddenly
started running by itself last Friday while I was driving on the
freeway, causing my engine to stall. As soon as I pulled over, I
opened the hood, and fumbled in the rain to remove both positive
connections to my dual Optimas, since the ignition key would not shut
off the starter. Before I could get the last positive off and stop
the starter motor whining, the motor spun down and then smoked. Once
at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
flexplate, and that the starter cooked, and took out (melted) the fuse
terminal on the engine harness on top of the right wheel well (under
the hood). Since the DC system dropped the harness from the parts
system in 2002, I can't get a part number to try and find a
replacement engine harness. I bought a used harness at Scotty's in
Fontana, after providing them with a description of the harness and
the vehicle, but $250 non-refundable dollars later, they pulled out
the wrong harness for me, and my dealer's mechanic wasted a few hours
more on my work ticket. I'm already on the hook for 9.5 hours for the
wiring replacement, and a few hours for the flexplate and starter.
Can anyone give me a hand here in finding a replacement harness? I am
looking for the harness that plugs in at the firewall behind the
master cylinder, and runs along the firewall toward the passenger
side, to the right wheel well where the fuse block mounts. The Jeep
is equipped with a California 4.0L engine, automatic tranny, and does
not have ABS. I don't need the other separate half of the electrical
harness, that supplies the headlights, etc. Any help here is
appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
a bay at the dealer's shop.

Regards,

Doug Gavilanes
Garden Grove, CA.

PeterD

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
<gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Once
>at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
>
>...
>
>is
>appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
>a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
>Regards,
>
>Doug Gavilanes
>Garden Grove, CA.

You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!

PeterD

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
<gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Once
>at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
>
>...
>
>is
>appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
>a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
>Regards,
>
>Doug Gavilanes
>Garden Grove, CA.

You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!

gavilan1

On Dec 7, 2:09 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
>
> <gavil...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Once
> >at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
>
> >...
>
> >is
> >appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
> >a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
> >Regards,
>
> >Doug Gavilanes
> >Garden Grove, CA.
>
> You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!

Yeah, but I thought that I only burned out the cable to the starter
motor when I had it towed in. Then I found out that the harness,
starter, and flexplate were a'goners. Also, we haven't had a decent
Jeep shop in Orange County, CA., or anywhere in the area since
Harvey's Complete Jeep shut down its locations in Huntington Beach and
Paramount (Bellflower?).

gavilan1

On Dec 7, 2:09 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
>
> <gavil...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Once
> >at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
>
> >...
>
> >is
> >appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
> >a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
> >Regards,
>
> >Doug Gavilanes
> >Garden Grove, CA.
>
> You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!

Yeah, but I thought that I only burned out the cable to the starter
motor when I had it towed in. Then I found out that the harness,
starter, and flexplate were a'goners. Also, we haven't had a decent
Jeep shop in Orange County, CA., or anywhere in the area since
Harvey's Complete Jeep shut down its locations in Huntington Beach and
Paramount (Bellflower?).

Earle Horton

"gavilan1" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e358ccb6-d04f-4ce8-b5c0-64726df1ce07@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 2:09 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
> >
> > <gavil...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Once
> > >at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
> >
> > >...
> >
> > >is
> > >appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's
> > >taking up a bay at the dealer's shop.
> >
> > >Regards,
> >
> > >Doug Gavilanes
> > >Garden Grove, CA.
> >
> > You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!
>
> Yeah, but I thought that I only burned out the cable to the starter
> motor when I had it towed in. Then I found out that the harness,
> starter, and flexplate were a'goners. Also, we haven't had a decent
> Jeep shop in Orange County, CA., or anywhere in the area since
> Harvey's Complete Jeep shut down its locations in Huntington Beach
> and Paramount (Bellflower?).

How bad is this harness, and how many wires are in it? I am thinking
you could just replace all the wires and whichever terminals are bad.
Dropped the harness in 2002 from the parts system? My 1995 is living on
borrowed time, isn't it?

Cheers,

Earle



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Earle Horton

"gavilan1" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e358ccb6-d04f-4ce8-b5c0-64726df1ce07@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 2:09 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:06:23 -0800 (PST), gavilan1
> >
> > <gavil...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Once
> > >at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
> >
> > >...
> >
> > >is
> > >appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's
> > >taking up a bay at the dealer's shop.
> >
> > >Regards,
> >
> > >Doug Gavilanes
> > >Garden Grove, CA.
> >
> > You took a 93 YJ to the *dealer*? Wow!
>
> Yeah, but I thought that I only burned out the cable to the starter
> motor when I had it towed in. Then I found out that the harness,
> starter, and flexplate were a'goners. Also, we haven't had a decent
> Jeep shop in Orange County, CA., or anywhere in the area since
> Harvey's Complete Jeep shut down its locations in Huntington Beach
> and Paramount (Bellflower?).

How bad is this harness, and how many wires are in it? I am thinking
you could just replace all the wires and whichever terminals are bad.
Dropped the harness in 2002 from the parts system? My 1995 is living on
borrowed time, isn't it?

Cheers,

Earle



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philthy

9.0 hours to do wiring
they ripped you off
thats a 3 hour job
i know i have replaced a ton of those harnesses
hell it don't take me 4 hours to replace the engine wiring harness in a
grand

gavilan1 wrote:

> Greetings. The starter in my 1993 YJ (4.0, auto, non-ABS) suddenly
> started running by itself last Friday while I was driving on the
> freeway, causing my engine to stall. As soon as I pulled over, I
> opened the hood, and fumbled in the rain to remove both positive
> connections to my dual Optimas, since the ignition key would not shut
> off the starter. Before I could get the last positive off and stop
> the starter motor whining, the motor spun down and then smoked. Once
> at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
> flexplate, and that the starter cooked, and took out (melted) the fuse
> terminal on the engine harness on top of the right wheel well (under
> the hood). Since the DC system dropped the harness from the parts
> system in 2002, I can't get a part number to try and find a
> replacement engine harness. I bought a used harness at Scotty's in
> Fontana, after providing them with a description of the harness and
> the vehicle, but $250 non-refundable dollars later, they pulled out
> the wrong harness for me, and my dealer's mechanic wasted a few hours
> more on my work ticket. I'm already on the hook for 9.5 hours for the
> wiring replacement, and a few hours for the flexplate and starter.
> Can anyone give me a hand here in finding a replacement harness? I am
> looking for the harness that plugs in at the firewall behind the
> master cylinder, and runs along the firewall toward the passenger
> side, to the right wheel well where the fuse block mounts. The Jeep
> is equipped with a California 4.0L engine, automatic tranny, and does
> not have ABS. I don't need the other separate half of the electrical
> harness, that supplies the headlights, etc. Any help here is
> appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
> a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> Garden Grove, CA.

philthy

9.0 hours to do wiring
they ripped you off
thats a 3 hour job
i know i have replaced a ton of those harnesses
hell it don't take me 4 hours to replace the engine wiring harness in a
grand

gavilan1 wrote:

> Greetings. The starter in my 1993 YJ (4.0, auto, non-ABS) suddenly
> started running by itself last Friday while I was driving on the
> freeway, causing my engine to stall. As soon as I pulled over, I
> opened the hood, and fumbled in the rain to remove both positive
> connections to my dual Optimas, since the ignition key would not shut
> off the starter. Before I could get the last positive off and stop
> the starter motor whining, the motor spun down and then smoked. Once
> at the dealership, after a tow, it was found that my starter ate my
> flexplate, and that the starter cooked, and took out (melted) the fuse
> terminal on the engine harness on top of the right wheel well (under
> the hood). Since the DC system dropped the harness from the parts
> system in 2002, I can't get a part number to try and find a
> replacement engine harness. I bought a used harness at Scotty's in
> Fontana, after providing them with a description of the harness and
> the vehicle, but $250 non-refundable dollars later, they pulled out
> the wrong harness for me, and my dealer's mechanic wasted a few hours
> more on my work ticket. I'm already on the hook for 9.5 hours for the
> wiring replacement, and a few hours for the flexplate and starter.
> Can anyone give me a hand here in finding a replacement harness? I am
> looking for the harness that plugs in at the firewall behind the
> master cylinder, and runs along the firewall toward the passenger
> side, to the right wheel well where the fuse block mounts. The Jeep
> is equipped with a California 4.0L engine, automatic tranny, and does
> not have ABS. I don't need the other separate half of the electrical
> harness, that supplies the headlights, etc. Any help here is
> appreciated. My daily driver is now a paperweight, and it's taking up
> a bay at the dealer's shop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> Garden Grove, CA.