HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
#71
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
#72
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
#73
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
batt/starter
fusable links bolt to.)
or a part number,
shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
mine,
from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
getting replaced.
MIKE, BILL, WILL,
a BIG thank you for all your help here,
johnp
#74
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#75
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#76
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> It kind of sounds like you're using a continuity tester, that'll
> ping just going through my body from my right hand to left. Use
> something that must burn a bulb in it. And a volt meter that will tell
> you if your ignition switch is powering the Sator.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill your right,
> here goes again,
> batt-neg--to relay post,,12.7V
> batt-neg--to alt post 12.6V
> Batt neg--to red wire on ALT plug 12.6V
> Batt pos--to brn wire on Alt plug 12.6V
>
> ignition key in the off position.
>
> johnp
You have a very bad connection between the battery positive post and the
alternator positive post. That 0.1V drop is 'huge' when it comes to
power loss and the alternator could be going insane trying to bridge the
bad connection.
99% of the time that bad connection is at the starter relay as your volt
drop readings indicate.
You still have a 'real' alternator in there, so the PCM isn't an issue.
First you need to clean the connections, then try the volt reading when
running again and everything plugged in properly.
When my starter relay connection gets punky, my volts start climbing
high before taking a dive when it gets too bad for the alternator to
bypass.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#77
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Man you just have one freaking dirty connection on the relay post. Take
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
#78
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Man you just have one freaking dirty connection on the relay post. Take
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Man you just have one freaking dirty connection on the relay post. Take
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
the wires off and clean them!
They call the thing the starter solenoid relay, but it's just dirty or
the engine wouldn't start. A new one will not help because the wire
loop connection is still dirty.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> Whats the "technical" term for the relay on the firewall, (where my
> batt/starter
> fusable links bolt to.)
> or a part number,
>
> shucks didnt have it in there computer or any of there
> books,,,awww-schucks,,,,
>
> im going to Napa today to get fusable links and the relay to replace
> mine,
>
> from what your all telling me its in there, so frig it,,, its all
> getting replaced.
>
> MIKE, BILL, WILL,
> a BIG thank you for all your help here,
>
> johnp
#80
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Re: HELP,,electrical nightmare 90YJ 2.5
Mike,
this relay,,starter-relay,
is this the relay on the firewall?
sorry for my stupidity,
could i have fried this relay?
ive cleaned all connections,
im getting voltage from batt to alt on all tests,
im getting voltage in my brown wire on the "two-wire" plug when the key
is on,
,
so i figure ill change out that relay and my fusable links next,
i was going to try a new relay first, but schucks dont even know what
it is,
its not in there computer, or books,
then my fusable links,
unless theres a test for the relay??
electricaly challenged,,now with nightmares,
maybe start drinking, sell the jeep,
johnp
johnp
this relay,,starter-relay,
is this the relay on the firewall?
sorry for my stupidity,
could i have fried this relay?
ive cleaned all connections,
im getting voltage from batt to alt on all tests,
im getting voltage in my brown wire on the "two-wire" plug when the key
is on,
,
so i figure ill change out that relay and my fusable links next,
i was going to try a new relay first, but schucks dont even know what
it is,
its not in there computer, or books,
then my fusable links,
unless theres a test for the relay??
electricaly challenged,,now with nightmares,
maybe start drinking, sell the jeep,
johnp
johnp