Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
post the pix to his website's tech section.
You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
socket on a long extension.
The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
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"NT" <noThanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:SgkYe.853$hW.0@tor-nn1...
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess
> all that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4e6a7$4330bb5a$d8449845$13562@FUSE.NET...
>> On my neighbor's '96 XJ we found the CPS to be on the driver's side and
>> the connector was connected on a bracket held on by a bolt on the rear of
>> the intake manifold
>>
>> --
>> .
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>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:XM2Ye.3839$P34.1381@okepread07...
>>> NT did pass the time by typing:
>>>> Hi Guys:
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping that someone can offer advice on this....
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee LTD.
>>>>
>>>> I've often wondered if the CPS is weak. I know that there are regular
>>>> reports of faulty CPS that lead to a no-start condition in jeeps of the
>>>> above vintage, but is a symptom of a faulty CPS just poor starting
>>>> conditions (my truck always starts, it just takes lots of cranking)?
>>>
>>> Lots of cranking usually indicated a no/low fuel pressure problem
>>> in fuel injected vepickles.
>>>
>>>> I there a way to tell by just looking if I have the newer CPS that
>>>> supposedly corrects the problem that was apparent with earlier units?
>>>
>>> Yea.. The number is printed on the CPS tang right next to the bolt that
>>> holds it in.. way up where you of course can't see it. :/
>>> There might be a paper tag somewhere on the harness.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a kit that supposedly replaces the CPS and the
>>>> wiring
>>>> harness so as to bypass an intermediate connector and connected
>>>> directly to
>>>> the ECU? If so, do you have a link to an online source?
>>>
>>> There are kits to move the CPS up front to the harmonic balancer, but no
>>> bypass kits that I'm aware of.
>>>
>>> Dunno if this helps, but for the ZJ.
>>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...tml#CPSdetails
>>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
>>>
>>> --
>>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
>>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
post the pix to his website's tech section.
You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
socket on a long extension.
The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"NT" <noThanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:SgkYe.853$hW.0@tor-nn1...
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess
> all that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4e6a7$4330bb5a$d8449845$13562@FUSE.NET...
>> On my neighbor's '96 XJ we found the CPS to be on the driver's side and
>> the connector was connected on a bracket held on by a bolt on the rear of
>> the intake manifold
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:XM2Ye.3839$P34.1381@okepread07...
>>> NT did pass the time by typing:
>>>> Hi Guys:
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping that someone can offer advice on this....
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee LTD.
>>>>
>>>> I've often wondered if the CPS is weak. I know that there are regular
>>>> reports of faulty CPS that lead to a no-start condition in jeeps of the
>>>> above vintage, but is a symptom of a faulty CPS just poor starting
>>>> conditions (my truck always starts, it just takes lots of cranking)?
>>>
>>> Lots of cranking usually indicated a no/low fuel pressure problem
>>> in fuel injected vepickles.
>>>
>>>> I there a way to tell by just looking if I have the newer CPS that
>>>> supposedly corrects the problem that was apparent with earlier units?
>>>
>>> Yea.. The number is printed on the CPS tang right next to the bolt that
>>> holds it in.. way up where you of course can't see it. :/
>>> There might be a paper tag somewhere on the harness.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a kit that supposedly replaces the CPS and the
>>>> wiring
>>>> harness so as to bypass an intermediate connector and connected
>>>> directly to
>>>> the ECU? If so, do you have a link to an online source?
>>>
>>> There are kits to move the CPS up front to the harmonic balancer, but no
>>> bypass kits that I'm aware of.
>>>
>>> Dunno if this helps, but for the ZJ.
>>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...tml#CPSdetails
>>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
>>>
>>> --
>>> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
>>> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>>> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>>> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted to
> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>
> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
> socket on a long extension.
>
> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
Thanks Bill!
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433216A4.EF137E61@***.net...
> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
Thanks Bill!
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433216A4.EF137E61@***.net...
> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433216A4.EF137E61@***.net...
> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#37
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
Thanks Bill!
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433216A4.EF137E61@***.net...
> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433216A4.EF137E61@***.net...
> http://www.----------.com/temp/cps.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> I sent some pix of the driver's side CPS & Connector to Bill if he wanted
>> to
>> post the pix to his website's tech section.
>>
>> You can remove it from underneath using your 1/4" socket set with a 7/16"
>> socket on a long extension.
>>
>> The connector mount takes, I seem to recall, a 10 mm wrench
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:29:10 UTC "NT" <noThanks@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea
#39
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:29:10 UTC "NT" <noThanks@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea
#40
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Re: Help with Crank Position Sensor - 89 Jeep Cherokee LTD
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:29:10 UTC "NT" <noThanks@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea
> Hi Guys:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I was able to locate the connector (I think). On my
> 89, the connector is one of the 'water tight' variety. I opened it up and
> took a look - the inside looked brand new - clean as a whistle - I guess all
> that sealing really does work - on this connector anyway.
Clean it anyway - the corrosion you get there is too thin to really
see anyway. You probably cleaned it enough just with the friction of
unpluging it.
I use the waterproof dielctric grease on that rubber seal on the plug
- seems to make the cleaning last longer. Works especially well on
the TPS and IAC connectors on the throttle body.
--
Will Honea