Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
Equipment
http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html



"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
> Thanks Matt, et al,
>
> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
> written the following:
>
> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>
> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
> Germany. ..."
>
> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>
> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
>> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
>> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
>> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
>> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>
>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>
>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> thanks Matt,
>>>
>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>
>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>>> them for some them last week.
>>>
>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>>> out the fill hole.
>>>
>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do
>>> not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>
>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>> present time.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>
>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
Equipment
http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html



"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
> Thanks Matt, et al,
>
> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
> written the following:
>
> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>
> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
> Germany. ..."
>
> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>
> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
>> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
>> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
>> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
>> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>
>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>
>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> thanks Matt,
>>>
>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>
>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>>> them for some them last week.
>>>
>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>>> out the fill hole.
>>>
>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do
>>> not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>
>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>> present time.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>
>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
Equipment
http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html



"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
> Thanks Matt, et al,
>
> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
> written the following:
>
> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>
> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau in
> Germany. ..."
>
> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>
> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>
>
> campbell freeman
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking for
>> an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The Mopar
>> lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know if it's
>> compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it wouldn't be
>> the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>
>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>
>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>
>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> thanks Matt,
>>>
>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>
>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first called
>>> them for some them last week.
>>>
>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to seep
>>> out the fill hole.
>>>
>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen to
>>> know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they were
>>> 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i do
>>> not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>
>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>> present time.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>
>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership is
>>>>> part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says "NV3500
>>>>> Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it is the
>>>>> same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5 speed, though
>>>>> it that those bottles did not list the transmission part number (i
>>>>> think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001 service manual, &
>>>>> have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>
>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>
>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...

And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
manufactured by Getrag.

All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.


thanks


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
> Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
> Equipment
> http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>
>
>
> "Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
> news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>> Thanks Matt, et al,
>>
>> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>> written the following:
>>
>> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>
>> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>> in Germany. ..."
>>
>> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>
>> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>> for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>> Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>> if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>> wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>
>>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>
>>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> thanks Matt,
>>>>
>>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>> called them for some them last week.
>>>>
>>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>> seep out the fill hole.
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>> to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>> were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>> do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>
>>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>> present time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>> is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>> "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>> is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>> speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>> part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>> service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...

And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
manufactured by Getrag.

All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.


thanks


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
> Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
> Equipment
> http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>
>
>
> "Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
> news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>> Thanks Matt, et al,
>>
>> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>> written the following:
>>
>> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>
>> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>> in Germany. ..."
>>
>> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>
>> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>> for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>> Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>> if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>> wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>
>>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>
>>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> thanks Matt,
>>>>
>>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>> called them for some them last week.
>>>>
>>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>> seep out the fill hole.
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>> to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>> were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>> do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>
>>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>> present time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>> is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>> "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>> is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>> speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>> part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>> service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...

And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
manufactured by Getrag.

All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.


thanks


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
> Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
> Equipment
> http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>
>
>
> "Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
> news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>> Thanks Matt, et al,
>>
>> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>> written the following:
>>
>> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>
>> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>> in Germany. ..."
>>
>> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>
>> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>> for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>> Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>> if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>> wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>
>>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>
>>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> thanks Matt,
>>>>
>>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>> called them for some them last week.
>>>>
>>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>> seep out the fill hole.
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>> to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>> were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>> do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>
>>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>> present time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>> is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>> "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>> is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>> speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>> part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>> service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...

And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
manufactured by Getrag.

All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.


thanks


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
> Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
> Equipment
> http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>
>
>
> "Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
> news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>> Thanks Matt, et al,
>>
>> I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>> in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>> written the following:
>>
>> "... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>> the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>> in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>
>> Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>> transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>> in Germany. ..."
>>
>> ...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>> not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>
>> it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>
>>
>> campbell freeman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>> for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>> Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>> if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>> wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>
>>> As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>> leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>> overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>
>>> I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>
>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> thanks Matt,
>>>>
>>>> ...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>> assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>> dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>> Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>> thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>> they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>> called them for some them last week.
>>>>
>>>> Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>> equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>> about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>> seep out the fill hole.
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>> to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>> were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>> do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much,
>>>>
>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>> The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>> NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>> the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>> has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>
>>>>> "campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> greetings all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>> present time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>> 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>> which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>> 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>> is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>> "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>> is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>> speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>> part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>> service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>> either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>> to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>> lubricant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>> from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> campbell freeman
>>>>>> south carolina
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

I do
I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
twice! on friday and again today.
Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
or was it 19?
Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
Cheers
Frank

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>
> And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
> manufactured by Getrag.
>
> All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
> is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
> need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
> the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.
>
>
> thanks
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
>
>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
>>Equipment
>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>>
>>
>>
>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>>
>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>
>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>>>in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>>>written the following:
>>>
>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>>>the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>>>in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>
>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>>>in Germany. ..."
>>>
>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>>>not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>
>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>
>>>
>>>campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>>>Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>>>if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>>>wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>
>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.n et...
>>>>
>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>>>thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>>>they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>>>called them for some them last week.
>>>>>
>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>>>about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>>>seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>>>to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>>>were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>>>do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>
>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast .com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>>>the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>>>has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth. net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>>>present time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>>>2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>>>which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>>>2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>>>is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>>>"NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>>>is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>>>speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>>>part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>>>service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>>>either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>>>to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>>>lubricant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

I do
I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
twice! on friday and again today.
Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
or was it 19?
Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
Cheers
Frank

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>
> And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
> manufactured by Getrag.
>
> All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
> is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
> need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
> the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.
>
>
> thanks
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
>
>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
>>Equipment
>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>>
>>
>>
>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>>
>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>
>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>>>in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>>>written the following:
>>>
>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>>>the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>>>in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>
>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>>>in Germany. ..."
>>>
>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>>>not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>
>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>
>>>
>>>campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>>>Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>>>if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>>>wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>
>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.n et...
>>>>
>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>>>thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>>>they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>>>called them for some them last week.
>>>>>
>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>>>about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>>>seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>>>to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>>>were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>>>do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>
>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast .com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>>>the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>>>has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth. net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>>>present time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>>>2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>>>which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>>>2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>>>is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>>>"NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>>>is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>>>speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>>>part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>>>service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>>>either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>>>to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>>>lubricant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

I do
I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
twice! on friday and again today.
Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
or was it 19?
Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
Cheers
Frank

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>
> And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
> manufactured by Getrag.
>
> All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the dealership
> is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and in doing so, i
> need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission, & contact them for
> the specification of the lubricant. No one else seems to know.
>
>
> thanks
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET...
>
>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as Standard
>>Equipment
>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
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>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
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>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>
>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key folk
>>>in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales. Both have
>>>written the following:
>>>
>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver currently
>>>the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and 4.7L engines
>>>in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>
>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from Gaggenau
>>>in Germany. ..."
>>>
>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it is
>>>not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>
>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>
>>>
>>>campbell freeman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear. The
>>>>Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I don't know
>>>>if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the right part it
>>>>wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>
>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.n et...
>>>>
>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a 2K5
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500. Only
>>>>>thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated yet...although
>>>>>they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out when i first
>>>>>called them for some them last week.
>>>>>
>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it is
>>>>>about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins to
>>>>>seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you happen
>>>>>to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the NV3550 they
>>>>>were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual for my 2K1, & i
>>>>>do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>
>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast .com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you get
>>>>>>the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except the 3550
>>>>>>has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth. net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at the
>>>>>>>present time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler rubicon.
>>>>>>>2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed manual,
>>>>>>>which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i had in my
>>>>>>>2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local dealership
>>>>>>>is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the label says
>>>>>>>"NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a NV 3500, but it
>>>>>>>is the same part number for the lubricant i used in my 2001's 5
>>>>>>>speed, though it that those bottles did not list the transmission
>>>>>>>part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have misplaced my 2001
>>>>>>>service manual, & have not yet purchased one for the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to be
>>>>>>>either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could provide as
>>>>>>>to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is indeed the correct
>>>>>>>lubricant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive information
>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>
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