Campbell C Freeman

Frank,

You are The Man. Thank so much for this most valuable ionformation.

According to my information MS-9224 is indeed Mopar/Chrysler 04874464 Manual
Transmission Lubricant...the same as used in the NV3500 & NV3550
trqnsmissions & also complies with Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission
Lubricant, which also states it meets Chrysler MS-9224/04874464. I may
give the Pennzoil a try. I have both at home.

"PENNZOIL® SYNCHROMESH FLUID is specifically formulated for synchromesh
transmissions used by Chrysler transmissions requiring Part No. 4874464
(Specification MS-9224)."

BTW...the case torque specs in ft/lbs did go up as you noted, so the
information you have provided is valuable on two fronts.

I really do appreciate all of the information you have provided as well as
everyone else too.

Thanks one and all.

Campbell Freeman
South Carolina


"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:4M2dnTm2p-BgulvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> O.K.
> According to my FSM for the 05 TJ.
> For the NSG370 6 speed transmission use
> "Mopar manual transmission lubricant" MS-9224.
> 1.5L or 3.17 pts
> Drain/fill plug 22 ft. Lbs.
>
> I also have a FSM for my previous 01TJ
> And for the NV3550 it says to use the
> "Mopar Manual transmission Fluid"
> (Exact wording from the FSM)
> (notice on the 05 it says "lubricant",
> on the 01 it says "fluid") :-/
> drain/fill plug 14-20 ft. Lbs.
>
> For the AX5 transmission use
> 75W90 API Grade GL-3
> Drain/fill plug 32.5 ft. Lbs.
>
> From the 05 FSM, wheel lug nut torque is 85-115 ft. Lbs.
> Oil pan drain plug 25 ft. Lbs
> Dana 44 drain/fill plugs 25 ft. Lbs
> cover bolts for diffs 30 ft. Lbs.
>
> Hope this helps
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>> Thanks, so much Frank.
>>
>> I will come across my 2001 eventually.
>>
>> I am hoping that the different make's case bolts will not be
>> significantly different. My mind is recalling either 17 or 19 ft/lbs &
>> now that i think about it, i believe it wrote it on the case for the
>> torque wrench, which is what i originally bought it for. That, and for
>> torquing wheel bolts which were 85-115 ft/lbs on the wheels of a 2K1
>> Wrangler Sport with the larger wheel package option (i split the
>> different and went with 100 ft/lbs). I do not know what they are for the
>> 2K5 Rubi (larger tires, though i believe the wheels are the same size,
>> but disc brakes on all 4).
>>
>> i just need to find the $$ & buy a FSM for the 2K5 Rubi. That would
>> solve most of my problems & answer most of my questions...just have to
>> find $125 or so.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> campbell
>> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:kqCdnQ_h4NUmnVjZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
>>
>>>I do
>>>I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
>>>wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
>>>twice! on friday and again today.
>>>Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
>>>I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
>>>I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
>>>or was it 19?
>>>Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
>>>Cheers
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>>yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>>>>
>>>>And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
>>>>manufactured by Getrag.
>>>>
>>>>All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the
>>>>dealership is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and
>>>>in doing so, i need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission,
>>>>& contact them for the specification of the lubricant. No one else
>>>>seems to know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as
>>>>>Standard Equipment
>>>>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key
>>>>>>folk in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales.
>>>>>>Both have written the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver
>>>>>>currently the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and
>>>>>>4.7L engines in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from
>>>>>>Gaggenau in Germany. ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it
>>>>>>is not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear.
>>>>>>>The Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I
>>>>>>>don't know if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the
>>>>>>>right part it wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is
>>>>>>>wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>message news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a
>>>>>>>>2K5 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual
>>>>>>>>transmission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500.
>>>>>>>>Only thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated
>>>>>>>>yet...although they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out
>>>>>>>>when i first called them for some them last week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it
>>>>>>>>is about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins
>>>>>>>>to seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you
>>>>>>>>happen to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the
>>>>>>>>NV3550 they were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual
>>>>>>>>for my 2K1, & i do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comc ast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you
>>>>>>>>>get the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except
>>>>>>>>>the 3550 has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>message news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at
>>>>>>>>>>the present time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler
>>>>>>>>>>rubicon. 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed
>>>>>>>>>>manual, which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i
>>>>>>>>>>had in my 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local
>>>>>>>>>>dealership is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the
>>>>>>>>>>label says "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a
>>>>>>>>>>NV 3500, but it is the same part number for the lubricant i used
>>>>>>>>>>in my 2001's 5 speed, though it that those bottles did not list
>>>>>>>>>>the transmission part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have
>>>>>>>>>>misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not yet purchased one for
>>>>>>>>>>the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to
>>>>>>>>>>be either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could
>>>>>>>>>>provide as to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is
>>>>>>>>>>indeed the correct lubricant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive
>>>>>>>>>>information
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Frank,

You are The Man. Thank so much for this most valuable ionformation.

According to my information MS-9224 is indeed Mopar/Chrysler 04874464 Manual
Transmission Lubricant...the same as used in the NV3500 & NV3550
trqnsmissions & also complies with Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission
Lubricant, which also states it meets Chrysler MS-9224/04874464. I may
give the Pennzoil a try. I have both at home.

"PENNZOIL® SYNCHROMESH FLUID is specifically formulated for synchromesh
transmissions used by Chrysler transmissions requiring Part No. 4874464
(Specification MS-9224)."

BTW...the case torque specs in ft/lbs did go up as you noted, so the
information you have provided is valuable on two fronts.

I really do appreciate all of the information you have provided as well as
everyone else too.

Thanks one and all.

Campbell Freeman
South Carolina


"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:4M2dnTm2p-BgulvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> O.K.
> According to my FSM for the 05 TJ.
> For the NSG370 6 speed transmission use
> "Mopar manual transmission lubricant" MS-9224.
> 1.5L or 3.17 pts
> Drain/fill plug 22 ft. Lbs.
>
> I also have a FSM for my previous 01TJ
> And for the NV3550 it says to use the
> "Mopar Manual transmission Fluid"
> (Exact wording from the FSM)
> (notice on the 05 it says "lubricant",
> on the 01 it says "fluid") :-/
> drain/fill plug 14-20 ft. Lbs.
>
> For the AX5 transmission use
> 75W90 API Grade GL-3
> Drain/fill plug 32.5 ft. Lbs.
>
> From the 05 FSM, wheel lug nut torque is 85-115 ft. Lbs.
> Oil pan drain plug 25 ft. Lbs
> Dana 44 drain/fill plugs 25 ft. Lbs
> cover bolts for diffs 30 ft. Lbs.
>
> Hope this helps
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>> Thanks, so much Frank.
>>
>> I will come across my 2001 eventually.
>>
>> I am hoping that the different make's case bolts will not be
>> significantly different. My mind is recalling either 17 or 19 ft/lbs &
>> now that i think about it, i believe it wrote it on the case for the
>> torque wrench, which is what i originally bought it for. That, and for
>> torquing wheel bolts which were 85-115 ft/lbs on the wheels of a 2K1
>> Wrangler Sport with the larger wheel package option (i split the
>> different and went with 100 ft/lbs). I do not know what they are for the
>> 2K5 Rubi (larger tires, though i believe the wheels are the same size,
>> but disc brakes on all 4).
>>
>> i just need to find the $$ & buy a FSM for the 2K5 Rubi. That would
>> solve most of my problems & answer most of my questions...just have to
>> find $125 or so.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> campbell
>> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:kqCdnQ_h4NUmnVjZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
>>
>>>I do
>>>I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
>>>wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
>>>twice! on friday and again today.
>>>Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
>>>I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
>>>I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
>>>or was it 19?
>>>Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
>>>Cheers
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>>yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>>>>
>>>>And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
>>>>manufactured by Getrag.
>>>>
>>>>All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the
>>>>dealership is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and
>>>>in doing so, i need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission,
>>>>& contact them for the specification of the lubricant. No one else
>>>>seems to know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as
>>>>>Standard Equipment
>>>>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key
>>>>>>folk in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales.
>>>>>>Both have written the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver
>>>>>>currently the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and
>>>>>>4.7L engines in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from
>>>>>>Gaggenau in Germany. ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it
>>>>>>is not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear.
>>>>>>>The Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I
>>>>>>>don't know if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the
>>>>>>>right part it wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is
>>>>>>>wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>message news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a
>>>>>>>>2K5 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual
>>>>>>>>transmission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500.
>>>>>>>>Only thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated
>>>>>>>>yet...although they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out
>>>>>>>>when i first called them for some them last week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it
>>>>>>>>is about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins
>>>>>>>>to seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you
>>>>>>>>happen to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the
>>>>>>>>NV3550 they were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual
>>>>>>>>for my 2K1, & i do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comc ast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you
>>>>>>>>>get the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except
>>>>>>>>>the 3550 has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>message news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at
>>>>>>>>>>the present time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler
>>>>>>>>>>rubicon. 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed
>>>>>>>>>>manual, which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i
>>>>>>>>>>had in my 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local
>>>>>>>>>>dealership is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the
>>>>>>>>>>label says "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a
>>>>>>>>>>NV 3500, but it is the same part number for the lubricant i used
>>>>>>>>>>in my 2001's 5 speed, though it that those bottles did not list
>>>>>>>>>>the transmission part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have
>>>>>>>>>>misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not yet purchased one for
>>>>>>>>>>the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to
>>>>>>>>>>be either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could
>>>>>>>>>>provide as to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is
>>>>>>>>>>indeed the correct lubricant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive
>>>>>>>>>>information
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

Campbell C Freeman

Frank,

You are The Man. Thank so much for this most valuable ionformation.

According to my information MS-9224 is indeed Mopar/Chrysler 04874464 Manual
Transmission Lubricant...the same as used in the NV3500 & NV3550
trqnsmissions & also complies with Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission
Lubricant, which also states it meets Chrysler MS-9224/04874464. I may
give the Pennzoil a try. I have both at home.

"PENNZOIL® SYNCHROMESH FLUID is specifically formulated for synchromesh
transmissions used by Chrysler transmissions requiring Part No. 4874464
(Specification MS-9224)."

BTW...the case torque specs in ft/lbs did go up as you noted, so the
information you have provided is valuable on two fronts.

I really do appreciate all of the information you have provided as well as
everyone else too.

Thanks one and all.

Campbell Freeman
South Carolina


"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:4M2dnTm2p-BgulvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> O.K.
> According to my FSM for the 05 TJ.
> For the NSG370 6 speed transmission use
> "Mopar manual transmission lubricant" MS-9224.
> 1.5L or 3.17 pts
> Drain/fill plug 22 ft. Lbs.
>
> I also have a FSM for my previous 01TJ
> And for the NV3550 it says to use the
> "Mopar Manual transmission Fluid"
> (Exact wording from the FSM)
> (notice on the 05 it says "lubricant",
> on the 01 it says "fluid") :-/
> drain/fill plug 14-20 ft. Lbs.
>
> For the AX5 transmission use
> 75W90 API Grade GL-3
> Drain/fill plug 32.5 ft. Lbs.
>
> From the 05 FSM, wheel lug nut torque is 85-115 ft. Lbs.
> Oil pan drain plug 25 ft. Lbs
> Dana 44 drain/fill plugs 25 ft. Lbs
> cover bolts for diffs 30 ft. Lbs.
>
> Hope this helps
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>> Thanks, so much Frank.
>>
>> I will come across my 2001 eventually.
>>
>> I am hoping that the different make's case bolts will not be
>> significantly different. My mind is recalling either 17 or 19 ft/lbs &
>> now that i think about it, i believe it wrote it on the case for the
>> torque wrench, which is what i originally bought it for. That, and for
>> torquing wheel bolts which were 85-115 ft/lbs on the wheels of a 2K1
>> Wrangler Sport with the larger wheel package option (i split the
>> different and went with 100 ft/lbs). I do not know what they are for the
>> 2K5 Rubi (larger tires, though i believe the wheels are the same size,
>> but disc brakes on all 4).
>>
>> i just need to find the $$ & buy a FSM for the 2K5 Rubi. That would
>> solve most of my problems & answer most of my questions...just have to
>> find $125 or so.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> campbell
>> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:kqCdnQ_h4NUmnVjZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
>>
>>>I do
>>>I did look it up in my 05 TJRuby FSM
>>>wrote it down and forgot to bring it in for you.
>>>twice! on friday and again today.
>>>Sorry 'bout that Chief :-(
>>>I promise to bring it in tomorrow morning.
>>>I do recall that the torque setting is 17 ft pounds
>>>or was it 19?
>>>Wait till tomorrow to confirm.
>>>Cheers
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>>yes...i have seen this and have a copy of it...
>>>>
>>>>And this is the transmission in the 2005 Rubicon...however, it is not
>>>>manufactured by Getrag.
>>>>
>>>>All i am trying to do is determine if the lubricant they are the
>>>>dealership is specifying as the lube: Mopar 04874464, is correct...and
>>>>in doing so, i need to know who makes (manufactures), this transmission,
>>>>& contact them for the specification of the lubricant. No one else
>>>>seems to know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:91ba3$44c4f993$48311eaf$19042@FUSE.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jeep Wrangler and Liberty to Feature Six-Speed Transmissions as
>>>>>Standard Equipment
>>>>>http://jeephorizons.com/news/nsg370.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Campbell C Freeman" <cfreeman@scetv.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ea2nkp$7a3$1@news04.infoave.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Matt, et al,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I contacted Getrag and got very prompt responses from 2 of their key
>>>>>>folk in Germay. One in technical operations & the other in sales.
>>>>>>Both have written the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"... NSG370 is not a GETRAG- product, because we "only" deliver
>>>>>>currently the Dodge Ram and the New Dakota transmissions with 3.7 and
>>>>>>4.7L engines in the Truck business of DaimlerChrysler ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Additionally: I was given the following information: "... Your
>>>>>>transmission is out of a Mercedes-Benz inhouse production from
>>>>>>Gaggenau in Germany. ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...now i am assuming that the transmission is indeed a NSG370, but it
>>>>>>is not a Getrag product...it is a Mercedes Benz product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it just goes to show "...the farther you go ...the deeper you get ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:C8CdncNVFuftO1_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You might try contacting Getrag for the lube spec, when I was looking
>>>>>>>for an equivalent for the Mopar part I contacted New Venture Gear.
>>>>>>>The Mopar lube was specifically for New Venture transmissions, I
>>>>>>>don't know if it's compatible with anything else. If it's not the
>>>>>>>right part it wouldn't be the first time a dealer's database is
>>>>>>>wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As far as the plug torque, I get it just tight enough to keep from
>>>>>>>leaking, I do it by feel. Not overtight but snug. You don't want to
>>>>>>>overtighten on an aluminum housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd guess the torque spec on the '01 would be similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>message news:XQgwg.16095$ZH1.8443@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks Matt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>...i know it is neither of the two. but, i was double...tripled
>>>>>>>>assured, & even shown on the parts computer screen at the Jeep
>>>>>>>>dealership, that this was the specified lube called for by DC for a
>>>>>>>>2K5 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with a NSG370, 6 speed manual
>>>>>>>>transmission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>same part number as the other lubes...but the label says NV3500.
>>>>>>>>Only thing i can figure is the label is probably not updated
>>>>>>>>yet...although they had just gotten this batch in, as they were out
>>>>>>>>when i first called them for some them last week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Owner's manual says: "Mopar Manual Transmission Lubricant or
>>>>>>>>equivalent." No capacity, though i was told and seem to remember it
>>>>>>>>is about 1.5 litres. no matter, you just pump it in until it begins
>>>>>>>>to seep out the fill hole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am in need of the torque specs for the bolts however, if you
>>>>>>>>happen to know those...i seem to remember that on my 2K1 with the
>>>>>>>>NV3550 they were 17 or 19 ft/lbs. i cannot find the service manual
>>>>>>>>for my 2K1, & i do not have one for the 2K5 rubicon yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks very much,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:y8OdnTPCed1Tq13ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comc ast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The tranny in the 05 isn't the same one as your 01, and it's not a
>>>>>>>>>NV3500 or 3550, so before the dealer sells it to you make sure you
>>>>>>>>>get the fluid specs right. The 3550 and 3500 are the same except
>>>>>>>>>the 3550 has an integral bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"campbell c freeman" <campbellcfreeman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>message news:CVDvg.12415$Bx.7876@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>greetings all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of some advice & i cannot find my notes on this at
>>>>>>>>>>the present time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am going to change the lubricant in my 2005 jeep wrangler
>>>>>>>>>>rubicon. 2005 was the first year (i believe), for the new 6 speed
>>>>>>>>>>manual, which, btw, is much smoother & quieter than the 5 speed i
>>>>>>>>>>had in my 2001 wrangler sport.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the lubricant i was sold at the parts counter of a local
>>>>>>>>>>dealership is part number 04874464 transmission lubricant. the
>>>>>>>>>>label says "NV3500 Transmission." I do not believe this to be a
>>>>>>>>>>NV 3500, but it is the same part number for the lubricant i used
>>>>>>>>>>in my 2001's 5 speed, though it that those bottles did not list
>>>>>>>>>>the transmission part number (i think it was a NV 3550).. i have
>>>>>>>>>>misplaced my 2001 service manual, & have not yet purchased one for
>>>>>>>>>>the 2005 rubicon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am in need of the torque specs for the bolts...i vaguely them to
>>>>>>>>>>be either 17 or 19 ft/lbs. and information any of you could
>>>>>>>>>>provide as to the model number for this 6 speed & if this is
>>>>>>>>>>indeed the correct lubricant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i am not doing anything until i receive some definitive
>>>>>>>>>>information
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from one of the many experts here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>as always thanks very much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>campbell freeman
>>>>>>>>>>south carolina
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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