heavy-duty tie rod
05-28-2004, 04:18 PM
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Jeff,
> The eight inch is more like a personal preference, and the one I
> feel better with, with our heavier tires. Remember your measurements are
> made up too, because all alignment measurements are check in degrees, so
> those degrees the further out the wheel the greater that distance:
Well, that makes sense, and is something I hadn't taken into consideration.
The larger tires can result in a larger inch-measurment deviation, and still
give the same spec in terms of degrees.
05-28-2004, 04:31 PM
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
05-28-2004, 04:31 PM
#23
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
05-28-2004, 04:31 PM
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
05-28-2004, 04:31 PM
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> center as the zero to the front correct?
>
> If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
>
> That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
>
> Mike
05-28-2004, 07:52 PM
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Nice Bill!
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
05-28-2004, 07:52 PM
#27
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Nice Bill!
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
05-28-2004, 07:52 PM
#28
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Nice Bill!
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
05-28-2004, 07:52 PM
#29
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Nice Bill!
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
Rich
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B7A1B5.D1BA554F@***.net...
> Toe in is measured from the pivot point, the axle, just like the
> actual degrees in chamber, castor, and on the alignment machine the
> toe-in would be .25 degrees for perfect:
> http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg and out to .45 to be still
> within specs. If you triangulate that on a 33" tire it's over an eight
> of an inch: http://www.----------.com/33tiretoe_in.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > If that is the toe in from the book, then that is measured from the axle
> > center as the zero to the front correct?
> >
> > If so, when doing the measuring using the front and rear of the tire, it
> > would be 1/8" less across the front of the tire.
> >
> > That is how I thought it was, I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Mike
05-28-2004, 08:17 PM
#30
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Re: heavy-duty tie rod
Hi Rich,
I find the easiest way is to clamp two yard stick like sticks
together so you my flip it back and forth zeroing in on the roundest
bulge of the tires front and rear, and rolling the car back and forth
too to make sure the tie-rod ends are settled in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Richard Harris wrote:
>
> Nice Bill!
> I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
> lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
> I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
> more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
> will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
> Rich
I find the easiest way is to clamp two yard stick like sticks
together so you my flip it back and forth zeroing in on the roundest
bulge of the tires front and rear, and rolling the car back and forth
too to make sure the tie-rod ends are settled in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Richard Harris wrote:
>
> Nice Bill!
> I've been thinking of checking/adjusting my toe-in since adding 33's and a
> lift. Just noticed yesterday that my tie rod is looser than it should be, so
> I'll replace the ends and adjust accordingly. I too think having a little
> more toe-in than a little less is better for big tires. I'm thinking they
> will track better. Thanks and I'll post the results.
> Rich
