Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
depth.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> johnny wrote:
> >
> > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod pieces
> > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is needed.
> > john

 

Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
depth.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> johnny wrote:
> >
> > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod pieces
> > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is needed.
> > john

 

Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
depth.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> johnny wrote:
> >
> > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod pieces
> > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is needed.
> > john

 

Back in 1964 when I went through Bear Mfg factory training in Rock Island,
Ill, it was more better to drive over the Bear "Scuff Gauge" . We used to
set the toe in @ 3 feet. This meant that the tire was dragged 3 feet
sideways for every mile (which was equal to 1/8" toe in - but was a dynamic
reading). The biggest benefit of using the scuff gauge was to drive over it
for the initial reading, then have several "hefty" people stand on the front
bumper & drive over it again (to check for toe change while braking) If the
2 readings were different then we would heat up the pitman arm & bend it up
or down until they were the same.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B8977B.E8B62ACC@sympatico.ca...
> Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
> accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
> depth.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> > than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> > ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> > toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > johnny wrote:
> > >
> > > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod
pieces
> > > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is
needed.
> > > john

 

Back in 1964 when I went through Bear Mfg factory training in Rock Island,
Ill, it was more better to drive over the Bear "Scuff Gauge" . We used to
set the toe in @ 3 feet. This meant that the tire was dragged 3 feet
sideways for every mile (which was equal to 1/8" toe in - but was a dynamic
reading). The biggest benefit of using the scuff gauge was to drive over it
for the initial reading, then have several "hefty" people stand on the front
bumper & drive over it again (to check for toe change while braking) If the
2 readings were different then we would heat up the pitman arm & bend it up
or down until they were the same.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B8977B.E8B62ACC@sympatico.ca...
> Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
> accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
> depth.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> > than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> > ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> > toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > johnny wrote:
> > >
> > > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod
pieces
> > > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is
needed.
> > > john

 

Back in 1964 when I went through Bear Mfg factory training in Rock Island,
Ill, it was more better to drive over the Bear "Scuff Gauge" . We used to
set the toe in @ 3 feet. This meant that the tire was dragged 3 feet
sideways for every mile (which was equal to 1/8" toe in - but was a dynamic
reading). The biggest benefit of using the scuff gauge was to drive over it
for the initial reading, then have several "hefty" people stand on the front
bumper & drive over it again (to check for toe change while braking) If the
2 readings were different then we would heat up the pitman arm & bend it up
or down until they were the same.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B8977B.E8B62ACC@sympatico.ca...
> Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
> accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
> depth.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> > than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> > ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> > toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > johnny wrote:
> > >
> > > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod
pieces
> > > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is
needed.
> > > john

 

Back in 1964 when I went through Bear Mfg factory training in Rock Island,
Ill, it was more better to drive over the Bear "Scuff Gauge" . We used to
set the toe in @ 3 feet. This meant that the tire was dragged 3 feet
sideways for every mile (which was equal to 1/8" toe in - but was a dynamic
reading). The biggest benefit of using the scuff gauge was to drive over it
for the initial reading, then have several "hefty" people stand on the front
bumper & drive over it again (to check for toe change while braking) If the
2 readings were different then we would heat up the pitman arm & bend it up
or down until they were the same.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40B8977B.E8B62ACC@sympatico.ca...
> Agreed, you can't measure the center of a moving ball socket with any
> accuracy at all and the new parts won't be the same size or thread
> depth.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > That sounds good, but is he replacing every tie-rod end too? If not
> > than he's a better man than I to be able to screw them together on the
> > ground and just plug it in. I think I'd rather just install it, set the
> > toe-in, and adjust the steering wheel to center again.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > johnny wrote:
> > >
> > > obviously, you should carefully measeure the lenghts of the old rod
pieces
> > > and adjust the new one to the same lenghts.then no alignment is
needed.
> > > john