L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Yes, I remember watching Hopalong Cassidy on television, and how he
would remove the bullet from a shell and plug it with cotton and fire it
into a log and start a fire:
http://216.247.24.237/_borders/Hoppy_Pic_2.jpg
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> Man, that is my wife's job usually. She can have a fire going rain or
> shine faster than you can blink and she only uses stuff from the woods
> as starter.
>
> I can too, but I didn't have to teach my wife, she came that way. She
> was in Girl Guides and I was in Scouts. Our group had 2 armed forces
> survival trainers as leaders. That was cool, learned a ---- load from
> them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you guys start a camp fire without five gallons of gas?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > It is fine if you stay on the road.
> > >
> > > My CJ7 doesn't have a heat shield so I am always aware of the fire
> > > danger.
> > >
> > > Long grass or shrubs and a hot muffler can make for a BBQ'd Jeep.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric

I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
it.
Crude drawing:
_______
__/---------\__

Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
"picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

Eric
99 TJ SE
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@***.net...
> If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
> from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees,
> that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In
> California you will be charged with that forest fire.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still
have
> > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one
attached
> > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out
> > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield
> > isn't critical.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

Eric

I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
it.
Crude drawing:
_______
__/---------\__

Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
"picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

Eric
99 TJ SE
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@***.net...
> If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
> from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees,
> that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In
> California you will be charged with that forest fire.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still
have
> > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one
attached
> > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out
> > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield
> > isn't critical.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

Eric

I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
it.
Crude drawing:
_______
__/---------\__

Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
"picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

Eric
99 TJ SE
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@***.net...
> If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
> from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees,
> that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In
> California you will be charged with that forest fire.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still
have
> > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one
attached
> > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out
> > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield
> > isn't critical.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

Eric

I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
it.
Crude drawing:
_______
__/---------\__

Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
"picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

Eric
99 TJ SE
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B8E74D.E6AD2182@***.net...
> If you go off road, you'll need that shield to keep the weeds away
> from the catalytic converter that's running at sixteen hundred degrees,
> that's over three times the temperature of a burning cigarette. In
> California you will be charged with that forest fire.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Is the heat shield attached to the stock muffler necessary? I still
have
> > the heat shield attached to the underside of the tub, but the one
attached
> > to the muffler had to be torn off. The muffler could probably hold out
> > another month or two without being replaced, as long as that heat shield
> > isn't critical.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

DougW

Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
> talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
> the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
> completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
> if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
> whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
> it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
> it.
> Crude drawing:
> _______
> __/---------\__
>
> Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
> the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
> shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
> "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
> front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close
things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if
you have been in traffic for a loooooong time.

Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the
muffler ever should.

Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock
muffler did. .shrug. dunno.

--
DougW

DougW

Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
> talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
> the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
> completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
> if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
> whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
> it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
> it.
> Crude drawing:
> _______
> __/---------\__
>
> Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
> the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
> shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
> "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
> front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close
things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if
you have been in traffic for a loooooong time.

Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the
muffler ever should.

Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock
muffler did. .shrug. dunno.

--
DougW

DougW

Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
> talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
> the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
> completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
> if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
> whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
> it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
> it.
> Crude drawing:
> _______
> __/---------\__
>
> Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
> the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
> shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
> "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
> front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close
things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if
you have been in traffic for a loooooong time.

Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the
muffler ever should.

Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock
muffler did. .shrug. dunno.

--
DougW

DougW

Eric did pass the time by typing:
> I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if we're
> talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded along
> the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
> completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from something
> if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
> whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to mention
> it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere near
> it.
> Crude drawing:
> _______
> __/---------\__
>
> Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top of
> the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the "heat
> shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
> "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and the
> front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)

It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close
things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if
you have been in traffic for a loooooong time.

Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the
muffler ever should.

Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock
muffler did. .shrug. dunno.

--
DougW

Eric

That was my thought exactly. Aftermarket mufflers don't have heat
shields...

The cat is perfectly intact. Just got a brand new one installed by the
dealer for FREE. :-)

Eric
99 TJ SE
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:EUauc.2768$W01.339@okepread01...
> Eric did pass the time by typing:
> > I don't see how that piece of tin protects anything. I don't know if
we're
> > talking about the same thing -- It was a thin piece of metal welded
along
> > the front and back seams of the muffler on its top side. The sides were
> > completely open. I suppose it would only protect the muffler from
something
> > if it fell straight down on top of it, and it would have to fall the
> > whopping couple of inches above from the bottom of the tub. Not to
mention
> > it did nothing to protect the catalytic converter... wasn't anywhere
near
> > it.
> > Crude drawing:
> > _______
> > __/---------\__
> >
> > Imagine that's a side view of the muffler. The dashed line is the top
of
> > the muffler itself. The solid angles and top solid line represent the
"heat
> > shield". That's what I tore off. The sides are open just like the
> > "picture". The only contact between the shield and the muffler is and
the
> > front and back. Never said I was an art major... ;-)
>
> It cuts down on heat getting into the cab. Depending on how close
> things are this can cause carpet backing to fume. Especially if
> you have been in traffic for a loooooong time.
>
> Much more important on the cat as that gets MUCH hotter than the
> muffler ever should.
>
> Then again, my Gibson doesn't have a heat shield like the stock
> muffler did. .shrug. dunno.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>