L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> They make the chips Ford, Chevy, and Daimler's 4.7:
> http://www.superchips.com/home.phtml
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

All this talk of "chips" shows the automotive world is mostly
electronically ignorant hicks. The "chip" is an EEPROM or window PROM
that costs a dollar or so. The software in it, is what you are paying
for. On a per byte basis the software from aftermarket hot rod
companies sell is insanely expensive. Usually it wasn't even software,
in the sense of executable code, per se but just data of an "engine
map", that is if X is such and Y is another, then Z.

Now they leave the physical memory part in place and flash it over the
OBD II connector.

There is reasonably priced software to do this in some cases, or you
replace the factory ECM with a unit having a common RS-232 connector
and download your own engine map. California and other eco-fascist
states probably do not allow this for on road use."Grassroots
Motorsports" magazine has some things like this advertised therein.

All my hobby cars are old enough I don't have to mess with electronics
and my go to work car stays strictly stock. Solves that problem pretty
well.

 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> They make the chips Ford, Chevy, and Daimler's 4.7:
> http://www.superchips.com/home.phtml
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

All this talk of "chips" shows the automotive world is mostly
electronically ignorant hicks. The "chip" is an EEPROM or window PROM
that costs a dollar or so. The software in it, is what you are paying
for. On a per byte basis the software from aftermarket hot rod
companies sell is insanely expensive. Usually it wasn't even software,
in the sense of executable code, per se but just data of an "engine
map", that is if X is such and Y is another, then Z.

Now they leave the physical memory part in place and flash it over the
OBD II connector.

There is reasonably priced software to do this in some cases, or you
replace the factory ECM with a unit having a common RS-232 connector
and download your own engine map. California and other eco-fascist
states probably do not allow this for on road use."Grassroots
Motorsports" magazine has some things like this advertised therein.

All my hobby cars are old enough I don't have to mess with electronics
and my go to work car stays strictly stock. Solves that problem pretty
well.

 

Hi Earle,
They are getting all these subsidies for converting so can see why
they would go ahead convert, and the screaming greenies, bleeding heart
liberals have probably taken it our of the logical thinking government
employees hands anyway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
> process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
> save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
> cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
> anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
> friendliness, was more important than the reality.
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
They are getting all these subsidies for converting so can see why
they would go ahead convert, and the screaming greenies, bleeding heart
liberals have probably taken it our of the logical thinking government
employees hands anyway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
> process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
> save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
> cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
> anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
> friendliness, was more important than the reality.
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
They are getting all these subsidies for converting so can see why
they would go ahead convert, and the screaming greenies, bleeding heart
liberals have probably taken it our of the logical thinking government
employees hands anyway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
> process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
> save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
> cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
> anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
> friendliness, was more important than the reality.
>
> Earle

 

Of coarse something has to ignite the gas. Do thing a brake fire
would have caused a diesel fuel tank to explode?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Point is if it was CNG, it didn't catch fire because of CNG, but because of
> poor maintenance on the brakes:
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/3370988
>
> the narrator described two explosions, so it was probably the medical O2
> canisters exploding http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9449949/
>
> The owner of the bus isn't Sunrise Senior Living, it's Global Limo of Pharr,
> TX.

 

Of coarse something has to ignite the gas. Do thing a brake fire
would have caused a diesel fuel tank to explode?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Point is if it was CNG, it didn't catch fire because of CNG, but because of
> poor maintenance on the brakes:
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/3370988
>
> the narrator described two explosions, so it was probably the medical O2
> canisters exploding http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9449949/
>
> The owner of the bus isn't Sunrise Senior Living, it's Global Limo of Pharr,
> TX.

 

Of coarse something has to ignite the gas. Do thing a brake fire
would have caused a diesel fuel tank to explode?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Point is if it was CNG, it didn't catch fire because of CNG, but because of
> poor maintenance on the brakes:
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/3370988
>
> the narrator described two explosions, so it was probably the medical O2
> canisters exploding http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9449949/
>
> The owner of the bus isn't Sunrise Senior Living, it's Global Limo of Pharr,
> TX.

 

Billy Ray proclaimed:

> I remember reading an article in one of the hot rodding magazines about a
> guy who was a machinist who ran all the plumbing for the nitrous inside the
> intake manifold so there was only one plain black, easily concealable,
> rubber hose running to the manifold.
>

The few good ole boys that will admit it, tended to run the tanks
themselves in the roll bars with the quick connect to the intake
manifold. About the same era as the guys who tried making their
restrictor plates out of metallic coated styrofoam...not that I would
have any idea how to fabricate one of those, no sir, not me Mr.
France.

 

Billy Ray proclaimed:

> I remember reading an article in one of the hot rodding magazines about a
> guy who was a machinist who ran all the plumbing for the nitrous inside the
> intake manifold so there was only one plain black, easily concealable,
> rubber hose running to the manifold.
>

The few good ole boys that will admit it, tended to run the tanks
themselves in the roll bars with the quick connect to the intake
manifold. About the same era as the guys who tried making their
restrictor plates out of metallic coated styrofoam...not that I would
have any idea how to fabricate one of those, no sir, not me Mr.
France.