having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
water easy.

A body lift can interfere with shifting too.

How is the fluid in the clutch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

neil wrote:
>
> I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
water easy.

A body lift can interfere with shifting too.

How is the fluid in the clutch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

neil wrote:
>
> I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
water easy.

A body lift can interfere with shifting too.

How is the fluid in the clutch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

neil wrote:
>
> I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch
plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving
or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal
all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear
grinding and difficult shifting.

Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before
grabbing 2nd. See if it helps.

Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04
hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or
severely warped/broken clutch parts.

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch
plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving
or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal
all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear
grinding and difficult shifting.

Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before
grabbing 2nd. See if it helps.

Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04
hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or
severely warped/broken clutch parts.

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch
plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving
or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal
all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear
grinding and difficult shifting.

Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before
grabbing 2nd. See if it helps.

Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04
hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or
severely warped/broken clutch parts.

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT?

IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS
SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I
THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH.

I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET
FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN
CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL



Mike Romain wrote:
> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
> water easy.
>
> A body lift can interfere with shifting too.
>
> How is the fluid in the clutch?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> neil wrote:
> >
> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT?

IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS
SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I
THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH.

I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET
FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN
CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL



Mike Romain wrote:
> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
> water easy.
>
> A body lift can interfere with shifting too.
>
> How is the fluid in the clutch?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> neil wrote:
> >
> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?

Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
 

HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT?

IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS
SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I
THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH.

I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET
FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN
CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL



Mike Romain wrote:
> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the
> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with
> water easy.
>
> A body lift can interfere with shifting too.
>
> How is the fluid in the clutch?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> neil wrote:
> >
> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to
> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really
> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong.
> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying
> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower
> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a
> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this?