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having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem
that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with water easy. A body lift can interfere with shifting too. How is the fluid in the clutch? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with water easy. A body lift can interfere with shifting too. How is the fluid in the clutch? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it
will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with water easy. A body lift can interfere with shifting too. How is the fluid in the clutch? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear grinding and difficult shifting. Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear grinding and difficult shifting. Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that
I figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear grinding and difficult shifting. Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL Mike Romain wrote: > Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > water easy. > > A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > How is the fluid in the clutch? > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: > > > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL Mike Romain wrote: > Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > water easy. > > A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > How is the fluid in the clutch? > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: > > > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP
INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL Mike Romain wrote: > Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > water easy. > > A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > How is the fluid in the clutch? > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: > > > > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have?
"neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with >> water easy. >> >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. >> >> How is the fluid in the clutch? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> neil wrote: >> > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have?
"neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with >> water easy. >> >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. >> >> How is the fluid in the clutch? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> neil wrote: >> > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have?
"neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with >> water easy. >> >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. >> >> How is the fluid in the clutch? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> neil wrote: >> > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT.
billy ray wrote: > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > >> water easy. > >> > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > >> > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> neil wrote: > >> > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT.
billy ray wrote: > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > >> water easy. > >> > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > >> > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> neil wrote: > >> > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT.
billy ray wrote: > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > >> water easy. > >> > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > >> > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > >> > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> > >> neil wrote: > >> > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
neil wrote:
> I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > And a stuck capslock key. hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. -- DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
neil wrote:
> I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > And a stuck capslock key. hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. -- DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
neil wrote:
> I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > And a stuck capslock key. hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. -- DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
IN WHAT WAYS DO YOU THINK HAVING A LIFT AFFECTS THE SHIFTING?
neil wrote: > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > billy ray wrote: > > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > > >> water easy. > > >> > > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > >> > > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >> > > >> neil wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
IN WHAT WAYS DO YOU THINK HAVING A LIFT AFFECTS THE SHIFTING?
neil wrote: > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > billy ray wrote: > > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > > >> water easy. > > >> > > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > >> > > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >> > > >> neil wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
IN WHAT WAYS DO YOU THINK HAVING A LIFT AFFECTS THE SHIFTING?
neil wrote: > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > billy ray wrote: > > It is not advised to have more than 1 inch body lift. How much do you have? > > > > > > "neil" <neilheuer@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1162683368.796610.243560@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > > HI, THANKS A LOT FOR REPLYING. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING MY JEEP > > > INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT? > > > > > > IF MY BODY LIFT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS > > > SOME SORT OF AFTER MARKET ITEM THAT I CAN BUY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I > > > THINK THAT I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE BUYING AFTER MARKET GEAR BOXES OR > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THE CLUTCH. > > > > > > I HONESTLY DONT KNOW A LOT ABOUT CARS, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET > > > FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE THAT I CAN > > > CALL AND TALK TO IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > > > > > THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. -NEIL > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Romain wrote: > > >> Have you checked the tranny fluid? If it is low or has water in it it > > >> will shift bad. Jeep didn't bother to put a high water vent on the > > >> tranny like they did on the t-case and diffs so they can fill up with > > >> water easy. > > >> > > >> A body lift can interfere with shifting too. > > >> > > >> How is the fluid in the clutch? > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >> > > >> neil wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I drive an 04 Wrangler X, and it has 33' inch tires, and the problem > > >> > that I am having, is that when I shift from first to second, I have to > > >> > double clutch or else I will feel a terrible grinding. It is really > > >> > annoying, and I worry that it is a sign that something is wrong. > > >> > However, double clutching solves the problem, but it is just annoying > > >> > to have to double cluth all the time, because it makes me even slower > > >> > than my Jeep already is, and it takes a fair amount of effort after a > > >> > while. Can someone explain to me what might be causing this? > > > |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Sorry about the stuck caps lock key.
DougW wrote: > neil wrote: > > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > And a stuck capslock key. > > hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. > > -- > DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Sorry about the stuck caps lock key.
DougW wrote: > neil wrote: > > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > And a stuck capslock key. > > hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. > > -- > DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Sorry about the stuck caps lock key.
DougW wrote: > neil wrote: > > I HAVE A 3 INCH BODY LIFT. > > > > And a stuck capslock key. > > hint: caps on usenet is like yelling. > > -- > DougW |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the
transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the
transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the
transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience
going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil Micah wrote: > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience
going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil Micah wrote: > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience
going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil Micah wrote: > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I had the same problem w/ my '03 TJ and it turned out to be bad syncronizer
gears...Mine did it between 2nd and 3rd... Good luck! Jeff "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:SP-dnXQne-cPndDYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@softcom.net... > My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that I > figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch > plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or > (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all > the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear > grinding and difficult shifting. > > Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before > grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. > > Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 > hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or > severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I had the same problem w/ my '03 TJ and it turned out to be bad syncronizer
gears...Mine did it between 2nd and 3rd... Good luck! Jeff "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:SP-dnXQne-cPndDYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@softcom.net... > My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that I > figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch > plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or > (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all > the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear > grinding and difficult shifting. > > Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before > grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. > > Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 > hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or > severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I had the same problem w/ my '03 TJ and it turned out to be bad syncronizer
gears...Mine did it between 2nd and 3rd... Good luck! Jeff "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:SP-dnXQne-cPndDYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@softcom.net... > My '05 TJL has the same problem when it was new. It's better, now that I > figured out the problem, which was partial engagement of the clutch > plates. Bad habit - I drive a semi, and when we DC shifts when moving or > (esp.) when comming to a stop, it's a no-no to push the clutch pedal all > the way to the floor. Doing with a TJ will result in a bit of gear > grinding and difficult shifting. > > Next time, consciously push the pedal all the way to the floor before > grabbing 2nd. See if it helps. > > Other causes might be incorrectly adjusted clutch linkage (are the '04 > hydraulic?), low transmission fluid level, incorrect fluid type, or > severely warped/broken clutch parts. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Mike, I thought you were going wheeling this weekend?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:454E0F8D.F17DB5F3@sympatico.ca... >I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't > already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of > line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam > against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the > body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. > > A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out > the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this > group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to > give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go > with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. > > You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower > tub lift. > > To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the > corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. > > I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and > actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. > Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience >> going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If >> so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all >> of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? >> >> Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in >> where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st >> gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I >> could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's >> performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil >> >> Micah wrote: >> > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the >> > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the >> > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results >> > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the >> > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Mike, I thought you were going wheeling this weekend?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:454E0F8D.F17DB5F3@sympatico.ca... >I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't > already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of > line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam > against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the > body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. > > A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out > the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this > group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to > give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go > with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. > > You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower > tub lift. > > To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the > corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. > > I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and > actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. > Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience >> going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If >> so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all >> of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? >> >> Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in >> where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st >> gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I >> could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's >> performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil >> >> Micah wrote: >> > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the >> > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the >> > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results >> > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the >> > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
Mike, I thought you were going wheeling this weekend?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:454E0F8D.F17DB5F3@sympatico.ca... >I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't > already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of > line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam > against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the > body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. > > A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out > the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this > group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to > give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go > with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. > > You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower > tub lift. > > To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the > corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. > > I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and > actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. > Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > neil wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience >> going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If >> so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all >> of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? >> >> Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in >> where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st >> gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I >> could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's >> performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil >> >> Micah wrote: >> > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the >> > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the >> > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results >> > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the >> > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't
already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower tub lift. To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience > going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If > so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all > of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? > > Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in > where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st > gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I > could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's > performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil > > Micah wrote: > > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't
already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower tub lift. To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience > going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If > so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all > of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? > > Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in > where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st > gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I > could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's > performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil > > Micah wrote: > > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
Re: having to double clutching on an 04 Wrangler X
I would recommend you first verify that the lift, being so tall, hasn't
already bent the body mounts on the frame causing the tub to be out of line. If the tub is even slightly off center, the shifter can jam against it when you try to hit certain gears like 1st or 2nd or if the body is leaning the other way, 5th and reverse. A 3" body lift is so tall it is basically unstable and will stress out the mounts or the tub plates. This was happening to a friend from this group with one, so we took out the lift tubes and cut them in half to give him and another Jeeper from this group both a 1.5" body lift to go with their suspension lift. They haven't had problems since. You would be better off with a cheap coil spring spacer lift and a lower tub lift. To check if the body is out of line you can use a tape measure at the corners of the tub and measure from the edge to the frame. I have also heard of some folks having to remove the shifter boots and actually snip mental and even having to leave one of the boots off. Others have heated the shifter with a torch and bent it to fit. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) neil wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, do you think that the grinding that I experience > going from first to second is primarily caused by the 3 inch lift? If > so, is there an after market item that can help to compensate for all > of the additional rough shifting that occurrs as a result of the lift? > > Or should I just check all of the fluids and ensure that no water is in > where it should not be? Or both? The grinding that occurs from 1st > gear to 2nd is the only complaint that I have about the vehicle, if I > could solve that problem, then I would be very pleased with the Jeep's > performance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Neil > > Micah wrote: > > Having a 3 inch body lift means your body is 3" higher above the > > transmission than it should be. Since your shifter goes from the > > transmission, through the body and into the cab, this usually results > > in some pretty rough shifting, it kind of makes you have to move the > > stick in ways the transmission doesn't want it to go. |
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