Mike Romain

I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
sits?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
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Spdloader wrote:
>
> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>
> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> It'll
> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>
> Upshifting is no problem.
>
> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>
> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Spdloader

Mike Romain

I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
sits?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Spdloader wrote:
>
> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>
> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> It'll
> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>
> Upshifting is no problem.
>
> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>
> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Spdloader

Mike Romain

I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
sits?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Spdloader wrote:
>
> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>
> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> It'll
> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>
> Upshifting is no problem.
>
> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>
> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Spdloader

Spdloader

I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.

Spdloader



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> sits?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>>
>> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
>> It'll
>> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>>
>> Upshifting is no problem.
>>
>> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>>
>> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>
>> Spdloader

Spdloader

I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.

Spdloader



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> sits?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>>
>> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
>> It'll
>> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>>
>> Upshifting is no problem.
>>
>> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>>
>> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>
>> Spdloader

Spdloader

I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.

Spdloader



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> sits?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>>
>> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
>> It'll
>> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>>
>> Upshifting is no problem.
>>
>> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>>
>> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>
>> Spdloader

Mike Romain

How are the engine and tranny mounts? A bad one can put the shifter out
of place so it can be a bugger getting into 1st and 2nd one time you
stop and reverse the next time you stop. Or if the tranny mount is
totally gone, then all 3 might be hard. This is due to the shifter
physically hitting the shifter boot.

If you use any gear oil that says GL5 on it or comes premixed with
'friction modifier' for diffs, you will get your symptoms.

Mike


Spdloader wrote:
>
> I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
> >I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> > low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> > sits?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Spdloader wrote:
> >>
> >> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
> >>
> >> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> >> It'll
> >> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
> >>
> >> Upshifting is no problem.
> >>
> >> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
> >>
> >> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >>
> >> Spdloader

Mike Romain

How are the engine and tranny mounts? A bad one can put the shifter out
of place so it can be a bugger getting into 1st and 2nd one time you
stop and reverse the next time you stop. Or if the tranny mount is
totally gone, then all 3 might be hard. This is due to the shifter
physically hitting the shifter boot.

If you use any gear oil that says GL5 on it or comes premixed with
'friction modifier' for diffs, you will get your symptoms.

Mike


Spdloader wrote:
>
> I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
> >I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> > low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> > sits?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Spdloader wrote:
> >>
> >> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
> >>
> >> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> >> It'll
> >> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
> >>
> >> Upshifting is no problem.
> >>
> >> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
> >>
> >> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >>
> >> Spdloader

Mike Romain

How are the engine and tranny mounts? A bad one can put the shifter out
of place so it can be a bugger getting into 1st and 2nd one time you
stop and reverse the next time you stop. Or if the tranny mount is
totally gone, then all 3 might be hard. This is due to the shifter
physically hitting the shifter boot.

If you use any gear oil that says GL5 on it or comes premixed with
'friction modifier' for diffs, you will get your symptoms.

Mike


Spdloader wrote:
>
> I filled the trans to capacity each time, and there are no leaks or drips.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:437131CE.4F1D993D@sympatico.ca...
> >I would be checking the tranny fluid level and the clutch reservoir. If
> > low on fluid, it will shift hard. Does it have any drips under when it
> > sits?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Spdloader wrote:
> >>
> >> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
> >>
> >> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> >> It'll
> >> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
> >>
> >> Upshifting is no problem.
> >>
> >> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
> >>
> >> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >>
> >> Spdloader

jdarg

It's not an internal problem, almost certainly clutch (or clutch
hydraulics) related. Your input shaft is turning with the engine, maybe
not way up at idle RPM but more than normal, when you press the pedal
to the floor. The clutch is not completely disengaging or the pilot
bushing-to-input shaft interface has too much friction which is causing
the input shaft to continue spinning. You can confirm this if you
gently ease it into reverse and hear the gears ratcheting together
without coming to a stop in a couple of seconds.

If your Jeep had sat at some point, read on...

I had a similar problem with my '94 YJ (also 2.5L, MT) - it was fine
when cool, but acted up once the engine warmed up, but was
intermittent. I'd either have to go into 4th or 5th before entering a
lower gear once stopped or kill the engine to shift into 1st.

After disassembly, the clutch and it's components all looked great but
the transmission input shaft was ratty looking - this jeep had been
parked for 8-10 months before I bought it which probably contributed to
the problem. It didn't do it at first, but rather appeared a few months
after I had been driving it. I separated the transmission from the
engine, gently polished the input shaft up with some crocus cloth
enough to get the surface rust off, regreased it, and it was fine
since.


Spdloader wrote:
> 1994 Wrangler 2.5l 4cyl, with 5spd. Don't know which 5spd.
>
> It is terribly hard to downshift into 1st, 2nd or Reverse when stopped.
> It'll
> shift just fine if slightly rolling.
>
> Upshifting is no problem.
>
> I'm definitely not a transmission mechanic.
>
> Ideas? Have it rebuilt? Synchros? Shifter fork? Clutch Slave?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Spdloader