Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Hi Bill,
Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
balancer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor. If it
> wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a problem
> which it hasn't so far.
>
> What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue pulling the
> timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Hi Bill,
Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
balancer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor. If it
> wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a problem
> which it hasn't so far.
>
> What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue pulling the
> timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
anything it could be too far away.

Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?

thanks,
bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> balancer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
If it
> > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
problem
> > which it hasn't so far.
> >
> > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue pulling
the
> > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
anything it could be too far away.

Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?

thanks,
bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> balancer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
If it
> > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
problem
> > which it hasn't so far.
> >
> > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue pulling
the
> > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
anything it could be too far away.

Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?

thanks,
bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> balancer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
If it
> > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
problem
> > which it hasn't so far.
> >
> > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue pulling
the
> > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Well, what I mean to say is would the pickup distance make a difference that
would effect/cause ping?


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:blodqh$eim2t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
> the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
> would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
> anything it could be too far away.
>
> Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?
>
> thanks,
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> > with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> > balancer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
> If it
> > > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
> problem
> > > which it hasn't so far.
> > >
> > > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue
pulling
> the
> > > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Well, what I mean to say is would the pickup distance make a difference that
would effect/cause ping?


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:blodqh$eim2t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
> the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
> would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
> anything it could be too far away.
>
> Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?
>
> thanks,
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> > with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> > balancer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
> If it
> > > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
> problem
> > > which it hasn't so far.
> > >
> > > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue
pulling
> the
> > > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

Well, what I mean to say is would the pickup distance make a difference that
would effect/cause ping?


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:blodqh$eim2t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Bill, could the pickup distance make a difference? I basically eyeballed
> the distance from the balancer when I hooked it up. It looks as though it
> would be between the required/recommended .020 to .060 distance. If
> anything it could be too far away.
>
> Also, any comments on the spark plug description in my original post?
>
> thanks,
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F7FB781.8E1655D4@cox.net...
> > Hi Bill,
> > Yes, I meant retard the spark, but I doubt you may make a change
> > with your setup, unless you can move the pickup in relation to the
> > balancer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > > Yes, the kit came with the Harmonic Balancer and the pickup sensor.
> If it
> > > wasn't hooked up correctly I would expect the computer revealing a
> problem
> > > which it hasn't so far.
> > >
> > > What do you mean pull the spark plug back? Do you mean continue
pulling
> the
> > > timing back? Sorry, still new on these terms.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

You mentioned in an earlier post that you hear your "ping" at idle, but not
under load. If that's the case, I'd bet you're not hearing pinging.

Something else is making your noise.


In message <blo8bh$e40ij$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>Well, now that I have MPI on my CJ7 I now have PING I can't get rid of. I'm
>running 91 octane (highest in California). JeepsRUs pulled the timing back
>6 degrees. I put cooler spark plugs in at Hesco's recommendation. After
>all that I still have the ping.
>
>From here I know of a couple of routes to go which actually can blend
>together.
>
>First, an adjustable fuel pressure regulator which both Hesco and JeepsRUs
>said might be necessary. The downside is price. Hesco charges 180
>something for this piece. Here I don't know if this will definitely clear
>up the ping.
>
>The other route is the 4.0L head. I'm told that will definitely clear up
>any ping. Since I already have a 4.0L head sitting in my back yard all
>ready to go I was thinking of just going to that. I only need to get a 4.0L
>manifold to make it work. The downside of that is the amount of work I need
>to do. Basically tear the whole thing apart again to put the head and
>manifold on.
>
>
>Anyone else run into this problem and found a work around?
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
>Oh, one other thing I noticed. After I put new plugs in I took a look at
>them to see their condition. It seems (and I've noticed this with the carb
>and two sets of plugs in the MPI) that a carbon trace forms down one side
>(about 10% of the radius of the white part) of the plug on all plugs. Is
>this normal or is this fouling and if it is fouling what could be causing
>it? Could it be the 4.2L head might cause this? Valves? What?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Got MPI. Now can't loose PING
 

You mentioned in an earlier post that you hear your "ping" at idle, but not
under load. If that's the case, I'd bet you're not hearing pinging.

Something else is making your noise.


In message <blo8bh$e40ij$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>Well, now that I have MPI on my CJ7 I now have PING I can't get rid of. I'm
>running 91 octane (highest in California). JeepsRUs pulled the timing back
>6 degrees. I put cooler spark plugs in at Hesco's recommendation. After
>all that I still have the ping.
>
>From here I know of a couple of routes to go which actually can blend
>together.
>
>First, an adjustable fuel pressure regulator which both Hesco and JeepsRUs
>said might be necessary. The downside is price. Hesco charges 180
>something for this piece. Here I don't know if this will definitely clear
>up the ping.
>
>The other route is the 4.0L head. I'm told that will definitely clear up
>any ping. Since I already have a 4.0L head sitting in my back yard all
>ready to go I was thinking of just going to that. I only need to get a 4.0L
>manifold to make it work. The downside of that is the amount of work I need
>to do. Basically tear the whole thing apart again to put the head and
>manifold on.
>
>
>Anyone else run into this problem and found a work around?
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
>Oh, one other thing I noticed. After I put new plugs in I took a look at
>them to see their condition. It seems (and I've noticed this with the carb
>and two sets of plugs in the MPI) that a carbon trace forms down one side
>(about 10% of the radius of the white part) of the plug on all plugs. Is
>this normal or is this fouling and if it is fouling what could be causing
>it? Could it be the 4.2L head might cause this? Valves? What?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>