Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
07-02-2004, 12:58 AM
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Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
.... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
of archived stuff.
Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
-jeff
of archived stuff.
Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
-jeff
07-02-2004, 01:09 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
The MT/R has some large kerfs cut out of each tread block that adds traction
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
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"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
07-02-2004, 01:09 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
The MT/R has some large kerfs cut out of each tread block that adds traction
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
07-02-2004, 01:09 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
The MT/R has some large kerfs cut out of each tread block that adds traction
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
07-02-2004, 01:09 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
The MT/R has some large kerfs cut out of each tread block that adds traction
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
in wet weather. They actually do well in wet weather, I have a set on my
daily driver TJ with at least 30,000 miles on them and from the amount of
perfectly wearing tread left, I'm guessing they have many more quality miles
left on them. They're a very good tire, much stronger (though not quite as
long-wearing) than the BFG Mud Terrains they replaced.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702005857.19433.00000700@mb-m17.aol.com...
> ... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a
bunch
> of archived stuff.
>
> Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I
have on
> the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud,
and
> my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive
but
> can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
>
> The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
> comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I
don't
> need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from
them.
>
> -jeff
07-02-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
On 02 Jul 2004 04:58:57 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
07-02-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
On 02 Jul 2004 04:58:57 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
07-02-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
On 02 Jul 2004 04:58:57 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
07-02-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: Goodyear MT/R's: wet pavement, and tread wear...
On 02 Jul 2004 04:58:57 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>... are my two main concerns, after posting on the subject and reading a bunch
>of archived stuff.
>
>Do these things suck on wet pavement, say compared to BFG AT's (what I have on
>the TJ now)? It rains a LOT where I live. OTOH, all that rain means mud, and
>my AT's don't do well in mud at tall. So I want something more aggressive but
>can't go "all the way" to Swampers or the like.
They tend to slide on snow because of the big soild blocks, but they
are ok in rain. Siping helps a LOT, but it will not help directional
control - just braking. Sipe just the center part and leave the side
blocks untouched.
>The other concern is tread wear. Several people have mentioned that, with
>comments like "watching them melt away on the highway daily", etc. I don't
>need them to last forever, but I'd like to get a solid 30K miles from them.
I haven't got a lot of miles on my MT/Rs and they are not mounted on a
Jeep, so I can't really comment. I think correct tire pressure is very
important, and a lot of guys don't really understand this. Maybe that
is contributing to the tread wear reports?
They are superior tires IMHO, and I will stick with them until
something better comes along.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
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