Eric

Funny -- I read a national article in the local newspaper, from two
mechanics, that rotating the tires is pretty useless. That the only reason
shops do it is to make more money. They said they'd never pay to rotate the
tires unless you got the service for free and were there for something else.
Said it really didn't make much of a difference at all.

I don't know how true that is, but it sorta makes sense. If you rotate
them, they have to "get used to" they're new spot on the vehicle and will
wear quickly for a few miles to settle in. Do that enough times, and those
little "wear-in" sessions would add up.

I'm not a tire expert -- just my thoughts on it.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"IsellJeeps" <123@abc.net> wrote in message
news:OrOfd.1664$fC4.598@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
> which ever one you pick make sure to rotate them every 3K miles so they
> dont
> chop up.. you will get a longer life out of them
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
>> Goodyear
>> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>>
>> BFG Mud terrains
>>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....reModel=Mud-Te
> rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>>
>> Goodyear MT/R's
>>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=Wrangler
> +MT%2FR
>>
>> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
>> concerned
>> about the price difference in the two.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> carl
>>
>>
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Rotation has always been a necessity for me, the front tires are
always trying to cup, and the rear only last half as long, due a little
lead foot problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Funny -- I read a national article in the local newspaper, from two
> mechanics, that rotating the tires is pretty useless. That the only reason
> shops do it is to make more money. They said they'd never pay to rotate the
> tires unless you got the service for free and were there for something else.
> Said it really didn't make much of a difference at all.
>
> I don't know how true that is, but it sorta makes sense. If you rotate
> them, they have to "get used to" they're new spot on the vehicle and will
> wear quickly for a few miles to settle in. Do that enough times, and those
> little "wear-in" sessions would add up.
>
> I'm not a tire expert -- just my thoughts on it.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "IsellJeeps" <123@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:OrOfd.1664$fC4.598@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
> > which ever one you pick make sure to rotate them every 3K miles so they
> > dont
> > chop up.. you will get a longer life out of them
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
> >> Goodyear
> >> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
> >>
> >> BFG Mud terrains
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....reModel=Mud-Te
> > rrain+T%2FA+KM'
> >>
> >> Goodyear MT/R's
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=Wrangler
> > +MT%2FR
> >>
> >> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
> >> concerned
> >> about the price difference in the two.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Rotation has always been a necessity for me, the front tires are
always trying to cup, and the rear only last half as long, due a little
lead foot problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Funny -- I read a national article in the local newspaper, from two
> mechanics, that rotating the tires is pretty useless. That the only reason
> shops do it is to make more money. They said they'd never pay to rotate the
> tires unless you got the service for free and were there for something else.
> Said it really didn't make much of a difference at all.
>
> I don't know how true that is, but it sorta makes sense. If you rotate
> them, they have to "get used to" they're new spot on the vehicle and will
> wear quickly for a few miles to settle in. Do that enough times, and those
> little "wear-in" sessions would add up.
>
> I'm not a tire expert -- just my thoughts on it.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "IsellJeeps" <123@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:OrOfd.1664$fC4.598@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
> > which ever one you pick make sure to rotate them every 3K miles so they
> > dont
> > chop up.. you will get a longer life out of them
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
> >> Goodyear
> >> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
> >>
> >> BFG Mud terrains
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....reModel=Mud-Te
> > rrain+T%2FA+KM'
> >>
> >> Goodyear MT/R's
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=Wrangler
> > +MT%2FR
> >>
> >> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
> >> concerned
> >> about the price difference in the two.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Rotation has always been a necessity for me, the front tires are
always trying to cup, and the rear only last half as long, due a little
lead foot problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Funny -- I read a national article in the local newspaper, from two
> mechanics, that rotating the tires is pretty useless. That the only reason
> shops do it is to make more money. They said they'd never pay to rotate the
> tires unless you got the service for free and were there for something else.
> Said it really didn't make much of a difference at all.
>
> I don't know how true that is, but it sorta makes sense. If you rotate
> them, they have to "get used to" they're new spot on the vehicle and will
> wear quickly for a few miles to settle in. Do that enough times, and those
> little "wear-in" sessions would add up.
>
> I'm not a tire expert -- just my thoughts on it.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "IsellJeeps" <123@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:OrOfd.1664$fC4.598@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
> > which ever one you pick make sure to rotate them every 3K miles so they
> > dont
> > chop up.. you will get a longer life out of them
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
> >> Goodyear
> >> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
> >>
> >> BFG Mud terrains
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....reModel=Mud-Te
> > rrain+T%2FA+KM'
> >>
> >> Goodyear MT/R's
> >>
> > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=Wrangler
> > +MT%2FR
> >>
> >> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
> >> concerned
> >> about the price difference in the two.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

Kevin in San Diego

Either tire has proven itself and works very well. I have the MTRs but the
bfg's are respected and long tested.
KH

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ESXfd.7611$lM1.1863@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>I just bought some slightly used BFG MTs (33x12.5) and they're awesome on
>the road (all I've used them for.. until this weekend gets here!) -- not
>nearly as loud as the ProComp MTs I had. Much smoother ride too.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
>> Goodyear
>> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>>
>> BFG Mud terrains
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>>
>> Goodyear MT/R's
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>>
>> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
>> concerned
>> about the price difference in the two.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> carl
>>
>>
>
>

Kevin in San Diego

Either tire has proven itself and works very well. I have the MTRs but the
bfg's are respected and long tested.
KH

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ESXfd.7611$lM1.1863@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>I just bought some slightly used BFG MTs (33x12.5) and they're awesome on
>the road (all I've used them for.. until this weekend gets here!) -- not
>nearly as loud as the ProComp MTs I had. Much smoother ride too.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
>> Goodyear
>> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>>
>> BFG Mud terrains
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>>
>> Goodyear MT/R's
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>>
>> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
>> concerned
>> about the price difference in the two.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> carl
>>
>>
>
>

Kevin in San Diego

Either tire has proven itself and works very well. I have the MTRs but the
bfg's are respected and long tested.
KH

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:ESXfd.7611$lM1.1863@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>I just bought some slightly used BFG MTs (33x12.5) and they're awesome on
>the road (all I've used them for.. until this weekend gets here!) -- not
>nearly as loud as the ProComp MTs I had. Much smoother ride too.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the
>> Goodyear
>> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>>
>> BFG Mud terrains
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>>
>> Goodyear MT/R's
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>>
>> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not
>> concerned
>> about the price difference in the two.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> carl
>>
>>
>
>

Jerry Bransford

BFG's Mud Terrain is better in mud than Goodyear's MT/R is but the MT/R has
a MUCH stronger sidewall so it resists sidewall cuts (like from rock
crawling) MUCH better than BFG's MT does. The MT/R is also a much better
rock crawler and along with BFG's uber-expensive Krawler tire, have pretty
much taken over the toughest rock crawling trails.

BFG's MT gets better wear, afterall, BFG's AT and MT probably get about the
best wear of any offroad tire brand.

I got 55K miles on my 33" BFG MTs before swapping them for 35" MT/Rs and can
vouch for the added sidewall toughness of the MT/R over the MT. I used to
cut my BFG MTs on a regular basis and have only sliced open one MT/R since
the swap.

If you're a rock crawler, go with the MT/R. If you're a mudder, go with the
MT.

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the Goodyear
> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>
> BFG Mud terrains
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>
> Goodyear MT/R's
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>
> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not concerned
> about the price difference in the two.
>
> Thanks,
>
> carl
>
>

Jerry Bransford

BFG's Mud Terrain is better in mud than Goodyear's MT/R is but the MT/R has
a MUCH stronger sidewall so it resists sidewall cuts (like from rock
crawling) MUCH better than BFG's MT does. The MT/R is also a much better
rock crawler and along with BFG's uber-expensive Krawler tire, have pretty
much taken over the toughest rock crawling trails.

BFG's MT gets better wear, afterall, BFG's AT and MT probably get about the
best wear of any offroad tire brand.

I got 55K miles on my 33" BFG MTs before swapping them for 35" MT/Rs and can
vouch for the added sidewall toughness of the MT/R over the MT. I used to
cut my BFG MTs on a regular basis and have only sliced open one MT/R since
the swap.

If you're a rock crawler, go with the MT/R. If you're a mudder, go with the
MT.

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the Goodyear
> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>
> BFG Mud terrains
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>
> Goodyear MT/R's
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>
> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not concerned
> about the price difference in the two.
>
> Thanks,
>
> carl
>
>

Jerry Bransford

BFG's Mud Terrain is better in mud than Goodyear's MT/R is but the MT/R has
a MUCH stronger sidewall so it resists sidewall cuts (like from rock
crawling) MUCH better than BFG's MT does. The MT/R is also a much better
rock crawler and along with BFG's uber-expensive Krawler tire, have pretty
much taken over the toughest rock crawling trails.

BFG's MT gets better wear, afterall, BFG's AT and MT probably get about the
best wear of any offroad tire brand.

I got 55K miles on my 33" BFG MTs before swapping them for 35" MT/Rs and can
vouch for the added sidewall toughness of the MT/R over the MT. I used to
cut my BFG MTs on a regular basis and have only sliced open one MT/R since
the swap.

If you're a rock crawler, go with the MT/R. If you're a mudder, go with the
MT.

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:417f2b84_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I'm looking at 30" tires for my 89 Cherokee. I am considering the Goodyear
> MT/R's and BFG Mud Terrain TA's. I am leaning toward the Mud Terrains.
>
> BFG Mud terrains
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM'
>
> Goodyear MT/R's
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rangler+MT%2FR
>
> Opionions? These will be used for daily driving and mudding. Not concerned
> about the price difference in the two.
>
> Thanks,
>
> carl
>
>