Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to side -
or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

I am not aware of how Full Time 4WD is supposed to feel, but if the VC was
not working properly, the result would be what you have described. In a
perfect world, the VC should give you a driving experience similar to that
of 2HI, but there are very few perfect things in the world. Try driving in
both 2HI, making sure the shift lever is actually giving you 2HI, and pay
carefull attention to what is happening relative to the symptoms you
described. Do this for a week or so, making sure that nobody moves the
lever. then try Full Time for a while and see if the symptoms occur. My
guess is that in 2HI, you will give a clean bill of health, and you will
find that Full Time causes the symptoms. Be sure to relay that to the
service writers.

Of course, the troulbe can still turn out to be that when shifting from Full
Time back to 2HI, you pass through Part Time and the tcase is hanging up
there because the linkage on the shifter is maladjusted. This is the most
likely problem, quite frankly. The adjustment is easy and free to fix, and
the likelihood of the getting a bad VC - while reasonably high - is just not
as likely as having the linkage set up improperly.

By the way you described the symptoms, I am stuck on the most likely problem
being mal adjustment of the linkage to the tcase. The second problem will be
the viscous coupler, the ball joints come in a distant third, but there has
reportedly been a recall on them, so they could conceivably be ahead of the
VC. If the trouble is the linkage, you can re-create the symptoms by playing
with the shifter, and you can eliminate the symptoms by playing with the
shifter just as easily. All yuou need do is pull the shifter a little
further into 2HI, which is to pull the shifter a little towards 4LO. Instead
of stopping as soon as you get to 2HI, pull past it, then push into 2HI.If
this solves the problem, get the linkage adjusted.

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to side -
or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

I am not aware of how Full Time 4WD is supposed to feel, but if the VC was
not working properly, the result would be what you have described. In a
perfect world, the VC should give you a driving experience similar to that
of 2HI, but there are very few perfect things in the world. Try driving in
both 2HI, making sure the shift lever is actually giving you 2HI, and pay
carefull attention to what is happening relative to the symptoms you
described. Do this for a week or so, making sure that nobody moves the
lever. then try Full Time for a while and see if the symptoms occur. My
guess is that in 2HI, you will give a clean bill of health, and you will
find that Full Time causes the symptoms. Be sure to relay that to the
service writers.

Of course, the troulbe can still turn out to be that when shifting from Full
Time back to 2HI, you pass through Part Time and the tcase is hanging up
there because the linkage on the shifter is maladjusted. This is the most
likely problem, quite frankly. The adjustment is easy and free to fix, and
the likelihood of the getting a bad VC - while reasonably high - is just not
as likely as having the linkage set up improperly.

By the way you described the symptoms, I am stuck on the most likely problem
being mal adjustment of the linkage to the tcase. The second problem will be
the viscous coupler, the ball joints come in a distant third, but there has
reportedly been a recall on them, so they could conceivably be ahead of the
VC. If the trouble is the linkage, you can re-create the symptoms by playing
with the shifter, and you can eliminate the symptoms by playing with the
shifter just as easily. All yuou need do is pull the shifter a little
further into 2HI, which is to pull the shifter a little towards 4LO. Instead
of stopping as soon as you get to 2HI, pull past it, then push into 2HI.If
this solves the problem, get the linkage adjusted.

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to side -
or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

I am not aware of how Full Time 4WD is supposed to feel, but if the VC was
not working properly, the result would be what you have described. In a
perfect world, the VC should give you a driving experience similar to that
of 2HI, but there are very few perfect things in the world. Try driving in
both 2HI, making sure the shift lever is actually giving you 2HI, and pay
carefull attention to what is happening relative to the symptoms you
described. Do this for a week or so, making sure that nobody moves the
lever. then try Full Time for a while and see if the symptoms occur. My
guess is that in 2HI, you will give a clean bill of health, and you will
find that Full Time causes the symptoms. Be sure to relay that to the
service writers.

Of course, the troulbe can still turn out to be that when shifting from Full
Time back to 2HI, you pass through Part Time and the tcase is hanging up
there because the linkage on the shifter is maladjusted. This is the most
likely problem, quite frankly. The adjustment is easy and free to fix, and
the likelihood of the getting a bad VC - while reasonably high - is just not
as likely as having the linkage set up improperly.

By the way you described the symptoms, I am stuck on the most likely problem
being mal adjustment of the linkage to the tcase. The second problem will be
the viscous coupler, the ball joints come in a distant third, but there has
reportedly been a recall on them, so they could conceivably be ahead of the
VC. If the trouble is the linkage, you can re-create the symptoms by playing
with the shifter, and you can eliminate the symptoms by playing with the
shifter just as easily. All yuou need do is pull the shifter a little
further into 2HI, which is to pull the shifter a little towards 4LO. Instead
of stopping as soon as you get to 2HI, pull past it, then push into 2HI.If
this solves the problem, get the linkage adjusted.

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
sure that 4HI is fully released.





"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
sure that 4HI is fully released.





"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
sure that 4HI is fully released.





"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
> but
> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
well.
> >
> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track, and
> if
> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
> part
> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
> the
> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >
> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage, this
> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>
> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part time
> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
> 4WD
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

Best thing is for her to go back to the dealer..


"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10p7b0cm0fa1o82@corp.supernews.com...
>I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
> back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
> pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
> sure that 4HI is fully released.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
> news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
>> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
>> but
>> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
> well.
>> >
>> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track,
>> > and
>> if
>> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
>> part
>> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
>> the
>> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
>> >
>> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
>> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage,
>> > this
>> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>>
>> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part
>> time
>> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
>> 4WD
>>
>>
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

Best thing is for her to go back to the dealer..


"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10p7b0cm0fa1o82@corp.supernews.com...
>I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
> back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
> pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
> sure that 4HI is fully released.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
> news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
>> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
>> but
>> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
> well.
>> >
>> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track,
>> > and
>> if
>> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
>> part
>> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
>> the
>> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
>> >
>> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
>> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage,
>> > this
>> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>>
>> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part
>> time
>> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
>> 4WD
>>
>>
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

Best thing is for her to go back to the dealer..


"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10p7b0cm0fa1o82@corp.supernews.com...
>I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then go
> back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
> pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to be
> sure that 4HI is fully released.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
> news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
>> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select track,
>> but
>> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
> well.
>> >
>> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track,
>> > and
>> if
>> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was the
>> part
>> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI, and
>> the
>> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
>> >
>> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
>> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage,
>> > this
>> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
>>
>> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part
>> time
>> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in F/T
>> 4WD
>>
>>
>
>

Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
 

She's already done that. I was trying to help her do a little diagnostic
work on her own that might help her get the dealership to find the problem.
I have found that the dealership is going to fix things they can actually
see long before they will fix things they can not see. Part of what we are
about here is helping people figure out how to open the dealership's eyes.




"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0CQkd.46091$km5.1702487@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Best thing is for her to go back to the dealer..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:10p7b0cm0fa1o82@corp.supernews.com...
> >I suggested pulling the shifter through 2HI and on the way to 4LO, then
go
> > back to 2HI, but apparently this is not possible. The best you can do is
> > pust the shifter into 2HI, then attempt to push beyond the stop just to
be
> > sure that 4HI is fully released.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
> > news:cmvfnb$qlr$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> >> news:10p58rckr15kt28@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > I am not that far off. I loose track of command track and select
track,
> >> but
> >> > to the extent I hit the proper track, I described the problem pretty
> > well.
> >> >
> >> > Having said that, isn't there a part time mode for the select track,
> >> > and
> >> if
> >> > the linkage is maladjusted AND the most recent tcase selection was
the
> >> part
> >> > time mode, then couldn't the tcase fail to shift properly into 2HI,
and
> >> the
> >> > result of such a failure would be exactly what I described?
> >> >
> >> > The Libby only has 5000 miles on it, and the OP says the trouble only
> >> > happens intermittantly, and if there was an issue with the linkage,
> >> > this
> >> > could cause an intermittant failure of the tcase to fully disengage.
> >>
> >> I will ask the dealer to look at that. You have to pass through part
> >> time
> >> 4WD to get from F/T 4WD to 2WD, though I think it has done it when in
F/T
> >> 4WD
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>