Getting my FIRST CJ
08-05-2005, 05:38 PM
#11
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:18:01 GMT in <ZeyIe.13120$4e6.11292@trnddc04>,
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
08-05-2005, 05:38 PM
#12
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:18:01 GMT in <ZeyIe.13120$4e6.11292@trnddc04>,
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
08-05-2005, 05:38 PM
#13
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:18:01 GMT in <ZeyIe.13120$4e6.11292@trnddc04>,
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought:
>Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
>I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
>jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
>look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
>that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
>put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
>dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
>timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
>do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
>put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
>were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
>look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
>impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
>can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
>frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
>like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
>Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
>Searcher 1
>
First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in
this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some
bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have
no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when
it's over 100 out, but what the hell.
Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of
shape your carb is in.
'80 CJ5 35X12.50
Smile as you go under.
08-06-2005, 12:05 PM
#14
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
I resurrected my `79 CJ-5 last year with a ground-up rebuild.
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
08-06-2005, 12:05 PM
#15
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
I resurrected my `79 CJ-5 last year with a ground-up rebuild.
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
08-06-2005, 12:05 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
I resurrected my `79 CJ-5 last year with a ground-up rebuild.
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
08-06-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
I resurrected my `79 CJ-5 last year with a ground-up rebuild.
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
"Restored" can mean wildly different things to different people -- for
some it is a loving nut-and-bolt thing, for others it is Bondo, some
foil tape and a can of paint. Buyer beware.
Some questions to ask: Why has the front drive shaft not been
installed? Is there a problem there or did he just run out of time and
interest? Is it a remanufactured engine, rebuilt, if rebuilt then by
who, or simply drained and not refilled? Why do you need to rewire the
tail lights?
As with any Jeep from that era you need to look carefully for rust.
Common rot areas are the bottom of the grill (it collects water), the
double-walled sections of the front fenders, just above and behind the
wheel cut-out, front floors, the bottom of the cowl at the front floor,
the inside of the windshield frame, the back side of the dash, the front
seat mount points, all of the floor stiffening channels, the tops of the
rear wheel boxes, the bottom edge of the rear of the body. For the
frame, look for rot in the rear cross member, the last foot of the frame
rails -- inside and outside surfaces, all of the body mount brackets,
and the frame behind the brake proportioning valve, below the driver's
left foot. Oh, and the gas tank.
You want to see a clean wiring harness without burn marks and gobs of
tape or 3-M taps, new brake lines (factory-formed stainless are
available, for a price). The spring packs used on Jeeps sag with age,
if they are flat or reversed replace `em. There's a bearing at the
bottom of the steering column tube that usually needs to be replaced.
There should be a combination roll-over valve and fuel system vent valve
riveted to the splash panel in the left rear wheel box. Check the
heater controls to see if they work. Lock in the hubs and try to turn
the universals at the back of each front wheel -- lockout hubs can break.
Fan shrouds seem to have been an option. Overheating in a healthy 258
I6 seems not to be a problem and the mechanical fan is trouble-free.
I don't know for sure what emissions equipment your `80 had, but I can
describe my `79: Electronic ignition control without any external
sensors, Electric choke, vapor recovery via a charcoal cannister mounted
on the left firewall (connects to that valve in the wheel box and vents
into the manifold). AIR injectors were installed in the exhaust
manifold and a catalytic converter resided ahead of the muffler (above
the cross member). My `79 always passed emissions with the AIR system
removed but some states require a visual inspection.
If you have more questions feel free to e-mail me.
Searcher1 wrote:
> Hello all, Newbie here,
>
> I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5.
> I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before
> jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures
> look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things
> that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights,
> put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys
> dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be
> timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud,
> do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and
> put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items
> were on this vehicle in the year 80?
>
> Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I
> look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an
> impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we
> can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete
> frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still
> like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang!
>
> Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor
> Searcher 1
>
>
