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Getting my FIRST CJ
Hello all, Newbie here,
I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items were on this vehicle in the year 80? Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor Searcher 1 |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
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I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole unless it was extremely cheap. The emissions vary radically according to where you live. Here in Ontario Canada, 20 years and older need no emissions. A lot of CJ's didn't come with a rad shroud. How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? Everything that is new and empty of fluids is 'very' likely totally destroyed by condensation if it has been sitting empty more than 6 months, especially the engine crank bearings, camshaft bearings, piston rings and cylinder, tranny gears, differential ring gears, gas lines, gas tank, brake lines, all of which are steel, etc.... Gotta play the devil's advocate here because I have seen failed 'projects' that sat for a 'time' and were total scrap metal after sitting. Especially all the brake and gas lines and gas tank. Sorry, but.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Searcher1 wrote: > > Hello all, Newbie here, > > I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. > I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before > jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures > look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things > that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, > put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? > > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an > impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we > can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete > frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still > like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! > > Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor > Searcher 1 |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Ouch!
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole unless it was extremely cheap. The emissions vary radically according to where you live. Here in Ontario Canada, 20 years and older need no emissions. A lot of CJ's didn't come with a rad shroud. How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? Everything that is new and empty of fluids is 'very' likely totally destroyed by condensation if it has been sitting empty more than 6 months, especially the engine crank bearings, camshaft bearings, piston rings and cylinder, tranny gears, differential ring gears, gas lines, gas tank, brake lines, all of which are steel, etc.... Gotta play the devil's advocate here because I have seen failed 'projects' that sat for a 'time' and were total scrap metal after sitting. Especially all the brake and gas lines and gas tank. Sorry, but.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Searcher1 wrote: > > Hello all, Newbie here, > > I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. > I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before > jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures > look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things > that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, > put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? > > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an > impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we > can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete > frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still > like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! > > Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor > Searcher 1 |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Ouch!
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole unless it was extremely cheap. The emissions vary radically according to where you live. Here in Ontario Canada, 20 years and older need no emissions. A lot of CJ's didn't come with a rad shroud. How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? Everything that is new and empty of fluids is 'very' likely totally destroyed by condensation if it has been sitting empty more than 6 months, especially the engine crank bearings, camshaft bearings, piston rings and cylinder, tranny gears, differential ring gears, gas lines, gas tank, brake lines, all of which are steel, etc.... Gotta play the devil's advocate here because I have seen failed 'projects' that sat for a 'time' and were total scrap metal after sitting. Especially all the brake and gas lines and gas tank. Sorry, but.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Searcher1 wrote: > > Hello all, Newbie here, > > I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. > I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before > jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures > look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things > that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, > put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? > > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an > impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we > can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete > frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still > like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! > > Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor > Searcher 1 |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Ouch!
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole unless it was extremely cheap. The emissions vary radically according to where you live. Here in Ontario Canada, 20 years and older need no emissions. A lot of CJ's didn't come with a rad shroud. How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? Everything that is new and empty of fluids is 'very' likely totally destroyed by condensation if it has been sitting empty more than 6 months, especially the engine crank bearings, camshaft bearings, piston rings and cylinder, tranny gears, differential ring gears, gas lines, gas tank, brake lines, all of which are steel, etc.... Gotta play the devil's advocate here because I have seen failed 'projects' that sat for a 'time' and were total scrap metal after sitting. Especially all the brake and gas lines and gas tank. Sorry, but.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Searcher1 wrote: > > Hello all, Newbie here, > > I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. > I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before > jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures > look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things > that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, > put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? > > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an > impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we > can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete > frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still > like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! > > Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor > Searcher 1 |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Have a trusted mechanic check it out first, unless you have already
bought it. Either way, don't let all of these "devils advocates" in this group deter you. Enjoy being a jeep owner! >And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. >>How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? She can only be timed after fluids are added. Be sure to use proper break-in procedures if it's a new engine. Read this and make your own decisions on break-in: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? I would run a shroud with a mechanical fan, but electrics are a good choice too - especially if you're planning on running in deep water. You'll soon find that you can "do" most anything to a jeep - there is nothing that hasn't been tried by someone out there. >And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? Check local laws - if you need an inspection for registration then you want to be "legal" > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. Well, unless these guys don't scare you off. |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Have a trusted mechanic check it out first, unless you have already
bought it. Either way, don't let all of these "devils advocates" in this group deter you. Enjoy being a jeep owner! >And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. >>How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? She can only be timed after fluids are added. Be sure to use proper break-in procedures if it's a new engine. Read this and make your own decisions on break-in: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? I would run a shroud with a mechanical fan, but electrics are a good choice too - especially if you're planning on running in deep water. You'll soon find that you can "do" most anything to a jeep - there is nothing that hasn't been tried by someone out there. >And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? Check local laws - if you need an inspection for registration then you want to be "legal" > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. Well, unless these guys don't scare you off. |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Have a trusted mechanic check it out first, unless you have already
bought it. Either way, don't let all of these "devils advocates" in this group deter you. Enjoy being a jeep owner! >And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. >>How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? She can only be timed after fluids are added. Be sure to use proper break-in procedures if it's a new engine. Read this and make your own decisions on break-in: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? I would run a shroud with a mechanical fan, but electrics are a good choice too - especially if you're planning on running in deep water. You'll soon find that you can "do" most anything to a jeep - there is nothing that hasn't been tried by someone out there. >And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? Check local laws - if you need an inspection for registration then you want to be "legal" > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. Well, unless these guys don't scare you off. |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
Have a trusted mechanic check it out first, unless you have already
bought it. Either way, don't let all of these "devils advocates" in this group deter you. Enjoy being a jeep owner! >And I mean all the fluids this babys > dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be > timed. >>How can the seller say it only needs to be timed when it has no fluids? She can only be timed after fluids are added. Be sure to use proper break-in procedures if it's a new engine. Read this and make your own decisions on break-in: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm > do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and > put on an electric one? I would run a shroud with a mechanical fan, but electrics are a good choice too - especially if you're planning on running in deep water. You'll soon find that you can "do" most anything to a jeep - there is nothing that hasn't been tried by someone out there. >And as far as emissions goes what emission items > were on this vehicle in the year 80? Check local laws - if you need an inspection for registration then you want to be "legal" > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I > look forward to this project. Well, unless these guys don't scare you off. |
Re: Getting my FIRST CJ
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:18:01 GMT in <ZeyIe.13120$4e6.11292@trnddc04>,
"Searcher1" <ACBRN@CS.ver.aol.com> graced the world with this thought: >Hello all, Newbie here, > > I will be getting my first CJ next week, she's a 95% restored 1980 CJ5. >I plan to finish her up and use it for a DD. Anything I should know before >jumping in with both feet? I have yet to see her in person but the pictures >look great, the engine and drivetrain have been rebuilt, the only things >that I have to do is connect the front driveshaft rewire the rear lights, >put in seatbelts and all the fluids. And I mean all the fluids this babys >dry all the way. Thats how fresh she supposedly is. She also needs to be >timed. THe one question that I have for the group is it needs a fan shroud, >do I have to have this, or can I just do away with the mechanical fan and >put on an electric one? And as far as emissions goes what emission items >were on this vehicle in the year 80? > > Well, I am sure you will be hearing more from me in the future, as I >look forward to this project. I had to give up my first project due to an >impending son, but now that he' here and 4 years old the wife says that we >can go ahead and get another project. My first real project was a complete >frame off of a 1981 Bronco. Did I just say the FORD word? Sorry, but I still >like my Fords. One day I'll get my 67 stang! > >Thanks for any help you all can give me in my endevor >Searcher 1 > First thing I'd have to ask, is, why are there absolutely no fluids in this guy? Did they leak out, or was it completely drained for some bizarre reason, or was everything put in new and never filled? I have no shroud, by the way, which probably contributes to overheating when it's over 100 out, but what the hell. Emissions depend where you live, and pay attention to what kind of shape your carb is in. '80 CJ5 35X12.50 Smile as you go under. |
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