Get the keepers off the valve stem
01-19-2004, 09:56 PM
#11
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Yes you use the spring compressor. If the valve stem is dropping with the
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
01-19-2004, 09:56 PM
#12
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Yes you use the spring compressor. If the valve stem is dropping with the
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
01-19-2004, 09:56 PM
#13
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Yes you use the spring compressor. If the valve stem is dropping with the
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable coing
this with a rope, pretty risky.
Steve
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and pop
> > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> spring
> > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
get
> the
> > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of needle
> nose
> > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
>
>
01-19-2004, 09:57 PM
#14
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Hi Bill,
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-19-2004, 09:57 PM
#15
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Hi Bill,
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-19-2004, 09:57 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Hi Bill,
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Yup, that's the way I do it.
I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
sliding of the stem?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out? Only
> to put them in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-19-2004, 10:04 PM
#17
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Looks to me like the seals are holding position on the valve stem, not
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-19-2004, 10:04 PM
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Looks to me like the seals are holding position on the valve stem, not
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-19-2004, 10:04 PM
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
Looks to me like the seals are holding position on the valve stem, not
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
remaining down against the head.
I'm using nylon rope which is less prone to knot (I hope, I hope, I hope).
Thank you for the good luck wish. Later, when I can invest in an air
compressor I can do it more safely.
I wonder what they cost to rent.
Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400C9922.359BFF5@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yup, that's the way I do it.
> I believe by time I got enough rope inside the camber to jam valve,
> it'd coil and knot. Good luck. How are the seals are they hard and
> sliding of the stem?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
01-19-2004, 10:07 PM
#20
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Re: Get the keepers off the valve stem
What type of interface would you use to add compressed air to the cylinder?
Thanks,
Bill
"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:xN0Pb.178859$X%5.91011@pd7tw2no...
> Yes you use the spring compressor. If the valve stem is dropping with the
> spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
> valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
> the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
> stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
> lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable
coing
> this with a rope, pretty risky.
> Steve
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
> Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and
pop
> > > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> > spring
> > > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
> get
> > the
> > > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of
needle
> > nose
> > > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
> >
> >
>
>
Thanks,
Bill
"Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message
news:xN0Pb.178859$X%5.91011@pd7tw2no...
> Yes you use the spring compressor. If the valve stem is dropping with the
> spring as you compress it your rope is not holding the valve up. When the
> valve is properly held tight against it's seat and you compress the spring
> the bottom of the spring will lift off the head because the retainer is
> stuck to the keepers. With the spring compressed and valve held firmly up
> lightly tap the retainer with a hammer. I wouldn't be very comfortable
coing
> this with a rope, pretty risky.
> Steve
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bui4mn$ib5pg$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > No, I don't have an air compressor. I pushed rope into the cylinder and
> > turned the crank to hold up the valve. You mean you pop the top of the
> > spring. So you don't use the spring compressor to get the keeprs out?
> Only
> > to put them in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:400C9298.A9E521E0@***.net...
> > > Are you using air to hold the valve? I use a regular socket and
pop
> > > it with a mallet, the keepers usually just bounce out.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm changing out my valve stem seals on my 83 CJ7 258. I have the
> > spring
> > > > compressed but I can't get the head of the valve to come up so I can
> get
> > the
> > > > keepers off. Seems stuck. I tried grabbing it with a pair of
needle
> > nose
> > > > but no luck. Anyone have an idea on what to do here?
> >
> >
>
>
