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Mike Romain 06-15-2007 03:38 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
griffin wrote:
>>> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>>> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>>> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough

> power
>>> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L,

> old CJ
>>> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?

>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this? Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>
>


I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with
my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it
goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better
without it.

Off road we have low range so never have issues.

As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do not
sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum tools
like the specialty shops also use. :-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 06-15-2007 03:38 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
griffin wrote:
>>> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>>> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>>> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough

> power
>>> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L,

> old CJ
>>> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?

>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this? Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>
>


I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with
my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it
goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better
without it.

Off road we have low range so never have issues.

As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do not
sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum tools
like the specialty shops also use. :-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 06-15-2007 03:38 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
griffin wrote:
>>> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>>> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>>> cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough

> power
>>> for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L,

> old CJ
>>> 6cyl, CJ 304 V8?

>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this? Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>
>


I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with
my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it
goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better
without it.

Off road we have low range so never have issues.

As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do not
sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum tools
like the specialty shops also use. :-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Matt Macchiarolo 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 

"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:z1Bci.30718$xq1.7562@pd7urf1no...
>> > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>> > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>> > cheap compared to a 6 or 8.


The 4cyl is cheap because they aren't in such demand as the 6.

>>
>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.


Trail riding, you won't notice the difference in power, assuming you are
geared well. On the highway, that's another story.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this?
> Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>

The 4-cyl TJ's have 4.10 gears, you would probably want to change to at
least 4.56 or 4.88 to get your engine in a decent power range.



Matt Macchiarolo 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 

"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:z1Bci.30718$xq1.7562@pd7urf1no...
>> > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>> > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>> > cheap compared to a 6 or 8.


The 4cyl is cheap because they aren't in such demand as the 6.

>>
>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.


Trail riding, you won't notice the difference in power, assuming you are
geared well. On the highway, that's another story.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this?
> Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>

The 4-cyl TJ's have 4.10 gears, you would probably want to change to at
least 4.56 or 4.88 to get your engine in a decent power range.



Matt Macchiarolo 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 

"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:z1Bci.30718$xq1.7562@pd7urf1no...
>> > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>> > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>> > cheap compared to a 6 or 8.


The 4cyl is cheap because they aren't in such demand as the 6.

>>
>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.


Trail riding, you won't notice the difference in power, assuming you are
geared well. On the highway, that's another story.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this?
> Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>

The 4-cyl TJ's have 4.10 gears, you would probably want to change to at
least 4.56 or 4.88 to get your engine in a decent power range.



Matt Macchiarolo 06-15-2007 03:48 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 

"griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:z1Bci.30718$xq1.7562@pd7urf1no...
>> > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a
>> > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty
>> > cheap compared to a 6 or 8.


The 4cyl is cheap because they aren't in such demand as the 6.

>>
>> Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed,
>> other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't
>> notice it at all.


Trail riding, you won't notice the difference in power, assuming you are
geared well. On the highway, that's another story.

>
> I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring
> lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this?
> Is
> this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend?
>

The 4-cyl TJ's have 4.10 gears, you would probably want to change to at
least 4.56 or 4.88 to get your engine in a decent power range.



XS11E 06-15-2007 04:27 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do
> not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum
> tools like the specialty shops also use. :-)


That's bad, it means your shop can't send the kids through Harvard on
the profit from a 2" lift, you didn't contribute to the economy nearly
as much as you should have.

In other news, I had a transmission fluid leak on the '93 GC, it was up
front where the transmission cooler lines connect to the transmission
cooler. I took it to a shop that I trust and they tightened the hose
clamps so I'm guilty of the same failure to contribute to the economy,
I should have taken it to the dealer who would have replaced the
transmission, radiator, cooler and then sold me a 2007 GC Limited.

Just think, if I'd done the right thing, I'd have a brand new GC with a
30 year mortgage..... you can't imagine how guilty I feel! <GD&R>


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XS11E 06-15-2007 04:27 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do
> not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum
> tools like the specialty shops also use. :-)


That's bad, it means your shop can't send the kids through Harvard on
the profit from a 2" lift, you didn't contribute to the economy nearly
as much as you should have.

In other news, I had a transmission fluid leak on the '93 GC, it was up
front where the transmission cooler lines connect to the transmission
cooler. I took it to a shop that I trust and they tightened the hose
clamps so I'm guilty of the same failure to contribute to the economy,
I should have taken it to the dealer who would have replaced the
transmission, radiator, cooler and then sold me a 2007 GC Limited.

Just think, if I'd done the right thing, I'd have a brand new GC with a
30 year mortgage..... you can't imagine how guilty I feel! <GD&R>


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XS11E 06-15-2007 04:27 PM

Re: General Jeep Questions
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do
> not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum
> tools like the specialty shops also use. :-)


That's bad, it means your shop can't send the kids through Harvard on
the profit from a 2" lift, you didn't contribute to the economy nearly
as much as you should have.

In other news, I had a transmission fluid leak on the '93 GC, it was up
front where the transmission cooler lines connect to the transmission
cooler. I took it to a shop that I trust and they tightened the hose
clamps so I'm guilty of the same failure to contribute to the economy,
I should have taken it to the dealer who would have replaced the
transmission, radiator, cooler and then sold me a 2007 GC Limited.

Just think, if I'd done the right thing, I'd have a brand new GC with a
30 year mortgage..... you can't imagine how guilty I feel! <GD&R>


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XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html


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