Outatime

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake.

LOL! Try using the 'Emergency Brake' sometime to actually stop a
vehicle in an emergency, and SEE how much worse the emergency becomes.

Outatime

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
> accurately a Parking Brake.

LOL! Try using the 'Emergency Brake' sometime to actually stop a
vehicle in an emergency, and SEE how much worse the emergency becomes.

Jeff Strickland

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7dmdnTriZIX9ifrYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
>> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
>> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
>> the least.
>
> I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
> were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes for
> commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do an
> entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at what
> I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!
>
> Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
> basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
> pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this
> problem.
>
>


I'm with you on that one. Driving should be taught at school. We should also
teach machine shop, wood shop, construction trades, etc. It is silly to
think that all of our kids are college bound. Clearly, some have no business
in college.

Jeff Strickland

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7dmdnTriZIX9ifrYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
>> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
>> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
>> the least.
>
> I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
> were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes for
> commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do an
> entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at what
> I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!
>
> Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
> basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
> pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this
> problem.
>
>


I'm with you on that one. Driving should be taught at school. We should also
teach machine shop, wood shop, construction trades, etc. It is silly to
think that all of our kids are college bound. Clearly, some have no business
in college.

Jeff Strickland

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7dmdnTriZIX9ifrYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> I truely hate to be the guy that mixes apples and oranges, but many
>> eurpoean countries REQUIRE drivers to be able to identify these vital
>> reserviors and how to get them open. This is an elementary skill to say
>> the least.
>
> I already have, so you're off the hook. I was taught that fluid levels
> were to be checked ever time you fueled the vehicle, and the same goes for
> commercial vehicles. (Actually, with the big truck, we have to do an
> entire vehicle inspection twice daily.) You'd be VERY surprised at what
> I've found just lifting the hood of a car once a week!
>
> Here in Kalifornia, Driver's Ed was abolished a long time ago, so that
> basket weaving classes could get the funding instead. If Arnold ever
> pulls his head out to catch a breath, I'd love to see him fix this
> problem.
>
>


I'm with you on that one. Driving should be taught at school. We should also
teach machine shop, wood shop, construction trades, etc. It is silly to
think that all of our kids are college bound. Clearly, some have no business
in college.

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670917.8F9BAF28@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
>> > She really needs an automotive education.
>> >
>> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
>> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
>> >
>> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
>> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total'
>> > failure
>> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
>> >
>> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle
>> > has
>> > only the emergency brake left.
>> >
>> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
>> > Does the emergency brake work?
>> >
>>
>> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
>> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
>> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>>
>> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
>> using the Emergency Brake to park.
>
> Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
> this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....
>
> The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
> 'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.
>


That's true, but the name of the brake does not make the problem go away. If
one uses the parking brake to park OR the emerbgency brake to park, and it
freezes shut then life sucks. It is still a parking brake, NOT an emergency
brake.

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670917.8F9BAF28@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
>> > She really needs an automotive education.
>> >
>> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
>> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
>> >
>> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
>> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total'
>> > failure
>> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
>> >
>> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle
>> > has
>> > only the emergency brake left.
>> >
>> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
>> > Does the emergency brake work?
>> >
>>
>> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
>> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
>> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>>
>> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
>> using the Emergency Brake to park.
>
> Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
> this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....
>
> The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
> 'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.
>


That's true, but the name of the brake does not make the problem go away. If
one uses the parking brake to park OR the emerbgency brake to park, and it
freezes shut then life sucks. It is still a parking brake, NOT an emergency
brake.

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45670917.8F9BAF28@sympatico.ca...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45663D58.5CD23DFB@sympatico.ca...
>> > She really needs an automotive education.
>> >
>> > When the Brake failure warning light comes on, the vehicle is no longer
>> > safe for the road until it has been determined the failure.
>> >
>> > When one reservoir goes empty, it puts serious stress on the seal
>> > between the master cylinder chambers which can lead to a 'total'
>> > failure
>> > there 'very' soon after one goes dry.
>> >
>> > When this happens, the brake pedal goes to the floor and the vehicle
>> > has
>> > only the emergency brake left.
>> >
>> > Does she know how to stop a vehicle using only the emergency brake?
>> > Does the emergency brake work?
>> >
>>
>> It kills me to hear people cal this an Emergency Brake. It is more
>> accurately a Parking Brake. The question is, "does one know how to stop a
>> vehicle using the parking brake?" And, "does the parking brake work?"
>>
>> There is a huge difference in using the Parking Brake in an emergency and
>> using the Emergency Brake to park.
>
> Up here in Canada if you use the 'emergency' brake to 'park' with at
> this time of year, you will/might not be 'unparking' until spring.....
>
> The only fix is to be lifted and towed to a warm garage to let the
> 'parking' brake unthaw so it becomes an 'emergency' brake again.
>


That's true, but the name of the brake does not make the problem go away. If
one uses the parking brake to park OR the emerbgency brake to park, and it
freezes shut then life sucks. It is still a parking brake, NOT an emergency
brake.

Jeff Strickland

Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure that my problem is age -- not mine so much as
the Jeep's -- and when I release the key, it does not always return
properly. My problem is more of a dirt issue than an adjustment issue.




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4567091D.B71ED256@sympatico.ca...
> That can be adjusted Jeff. The switch at the bottom of the steering
> column has slots to set it properly.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
>

Jeff Strickland

Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure that my problem is age -- not mine so much as
the Jeep's -- and when I release the key, it does not always return
properly. My problem is more of a dirt issue than an adjustment issue.




"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4567091D.B71ED256@sympatico.ca...
> That can be adjusted Jeff. The switch at the bottom of the steering
> column has slots to set it properly.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page
>