HarryS

Maybe you should go on the Jay Leno show.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@***.net> wrote in message
news:D9nZd.63337$7z6.61539@lakeread04...
| lol, funny how people make a mountain out of a mole hill, hahaha. I had
my
| check engine light come on about a month ago and thanks to already hearing
| (last year?) about the on,off,on,off,on trick (from Bill) I pulled the
codes
| on my odometer. Bad news is the code told me my tranny was destroyed but
| that's ok.
|
| "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
| news:4235F9C8.9BA2F9AD@***.net...
| > Geez! What's with you! The link will tell him, he may pull the
| > codes, by simply turning the ignition on, off, on, off, on, and read the
| > codes from the odometer.
| > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
| >
| > Jeff Strickland wrote:
| >>
| >> Bill's link gives all of the codes that are possible, but not all cars
| >> can
| >> generate all of the codes.
| >>
| >> If there is a code, and all cars generate it, it will mean the same
thing
| >> all of the time. But if there is a code that a car can't make, then it
| >> simply can't make it.
| >>
| >> I noticed an error in the list.
| >> P0439
| >> Catalyst Heater Control Circuit (Bank 2)
| >>
| >> P0439
| >> Evaporative Emission Control System
| >>
| >> Notice that these two symptoms both use the same code, I think this is
an
| >> error. The Evaporative EmissionControl System fault is P0440. This code
| >> means the evaporative system isn't sealed, which happens when the gas
cap
| >> is
| >> left off, and other faults can be triggered as well. These subsequent
| >> faults
| >> can either dial the fault in to a particular part, or can simply be a
| >> reaction to the open system. My strategy would be to make a list of the
| >> codes, then reset them and wait to see if the light comes back on again
| >> once
| >> the gas cap has been put on correctly, or replaced if defective.
| >>
| >> One can also search the web for "OBD II CODES" and come up with a
variety
| >> of
| >> hits that give the varous codes and some even list up the diagnostic
| >> scanners that can pull the codes. The diagnostic tools are available in
a
| >> range of prices, the more expensive units have additional features.
| >>
| >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
| >> news:4235E517.54D2E9C5@***.net...
| >> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
| >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
| >> >
| >> > Othello wrote:
| >> > >
| >> > > RE 2002 Jeep Cherokee, 6 Cyl.
| >> > >
| >> > > I had a problem passing the State of NJ emissions test. The guy
said
| >> > > it
| >> was
| >> > > the gas cap. But, it passed and I happily left. Now, I have a Chk
| >> Engine
| >> > > Light. The car runs beautifully. Could this be the gas cap acting
| >> > > up?
| >> Is
| >> > > there a way to confirm the Check Eng light without a second
mortgage
| >> > > on
| >> the
| >> > > house?
| >> > >
| >> > > Thanks for your help. Gary
|
|

HarryS

Maybe you should go on the Jay Leno show.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@***.net> wrote in message
news:D9nZd.63337$7z6.61539@lakeread04...
| lol, funny how people make a mountain out of a mole hill, hahaha. I had
my
| check engine light come on about a month ago and thanks to already hearing
| (last year?) about the on,off,on,off,on trick (from Bill) I pulled the
codes
| on my odometer. Bad news is the code told me my tranny was destroyed but
| that's ok.
|
| "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
| news:4235F9C8.9BA2F9AD@***.net...
| > Geez! What's with you! The link will tell him, he may pull the
| > codes, by simply turning the ignition on, off, on, off, on, and read the
| > codes from the odometer.
| > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
| >
| > Jeff Strickland wrote:
| >>
| >> Bill's link gives all of the codes that are possible, but not all cars
| >> can
| >> generate all of the codes.
| >>
| >> If there is a code, and all cars generate it, it will mean the same
thing
| >> all of the time. But if there is a code that a car can't make, then it
| >> simply can't make it.
| >>
| >> I noticed an error in the list.
| >> P0439
| >> Catalyst Heater Control Circuit (Bank 2)
| >>
| >> P0439
| >> Evaporative Emission Control System
| >>
| >> Notice that these two symptoms both use the same code, I think this is
an
| >> error. The Evaporative EmissionControl System fault is P0440. This code
| >> means the evaporative system isn't sealed, which happens when the gas
cap
| >> is
| >> left off, and other faults can be triggered as well. These subsequent
| >> faults
| >> can either dial the fault in to a particular part, or can simply be a
| >> reaction to the open system. My strategy would be to make a list of the
| >> codes, then reset them and wait to see if the light comes back on again
| >> once
| >> the gas cap has been put on correctly, or replaced if defective.
| >>
| >> One can also search the web for "OBD II CODES" and come up with a
variety
| >> of
| >> hits that give the varous codes and some even list up the diagnostic
| >> scanners that can pull the codes. The diagnostic tools are available in
a
| >> range of prices, the more expensive units have additional features.
| >>
| >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
| >> news:4235E517.54D2E9C5@***.net...
| >> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
| >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
| >> >
| >> > Othello wrote:
| >> > >
| >> > > RE 2002 Jeep Cherokee, 6 Cyl.
| >> > >
| >> > > I had a problem passing the State of NJ emissions test. The guy
said
| >> > > it
| >> was
| >> > > the gas cap. But, it passed and I happily left. Now, I have a Chk
| >> Engine
| >> > > Light. The car runs beautifully. Could this be the gas cap acting
| >> > > up?
| >> Is
| >> > > there a way to confirm the Check Eng light without a second
mortgage
| >> > > on
| >> the
| >> > > house?
| >> > >
| >> > > Thanks for your help. Gary
|
|

Dave Lee

Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
on?
"HarryS" <harry01@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8K-dnYsmmckGkavfRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> Maybe you should go on the Jay Leno show.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@***.net> wrote in message
> news:D9nZd.63337$7z6.61539@lakeread04...
> | lol, funny how people make a mountain out of a mole hill, hahaha. I had
> my
> | check engine light come on about a month ago and thanks to already
> hearing
> | (last year?) about the on,off,on,off,on trick (from Bill) I pulled the
> codes
> | on my odometer. Bad news is the code told me my tranny was destroyed
> but
> | that's ok.
> |
> | "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | news:4235F9C8.9BA2F9AD@***.net...
> | > Geez! What's with you! The link will tell him, he may pull the
> | > codes, by simply turning the ignition on, off, on, off, on, and read
> the
> | > codes from the odometer.
> | > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >
> | > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> | >>
> | >> Bill's link gives all of the codes that are possible, but not all
> cars
> | >> can
> | >> generate all of the codes.
> | >>
> | >> If there is a code, and all cars generate it, it will mean the same
> thing
> | >> all of the time. But if there is a code that a car can't make, then
> it
> | >> simply can't make it.
> | >>
> | >> I noticed an error in the list.
> | >> P0439
> | >> Catalyst Heater Control Circuit (Bank 2)
> | >>
> | >> P0439
> | >> Evaporative Emission Control System
> | >>
> | >> Notice that these two symptoms both use the same code, I think this
> is
> an
> | >> error. The Evaporative EmissionControl System fault is P0440. This
> code
> | >> means the evaporative system isn't sealed, which happens when the gas
> cap
> | >> is
> | >> left off, and other faults can be triggered as well. These subsequent
> | >> faults
> | >> can either dial the fault in to a particular part, or can simply be a
> | >> reaction to the open system. My strategy would be to make a list of
> the
> | >> codes, then reset them and wait to see if the light comes back on
> again
> | >> once
> | >> the gas cap has been put on correctly, or replaced if defective.
> | >>
> | >> One can also search the web for "OBD II CODES" and come up with a
> variety
> | >> of
> | >> hits that give the varous codes and some even list up the diagnostic
> | >> scanners that can pull the codes. The diagnostic tools are available
> in
> a
> | >> range of prices, the more expensive units have additional features.
> | >>
> | >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | >> news:4235E517.54D2E9C5@***.net...
> | >> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> | >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >> >
> | >> > Othello wrote:
> | >> > >
> | >> > > RE 2002 Jeep Cherokee, 6 Cyl.
> | >> > >
> | >> > > I had a problem passing the State of NJ emissions test. The guy
> said
> | >> > > it
> | >> was
> | >> > > the gas cap. But, it passed and I happily left. Now, I have a
> Chk
> | >> Engine
> | >> > > Light. The car runs beautifully. Could this be the gas cap
> acting
> | >> > > up?
> | >> Is
> | >> > > there a way to confirm the Check Eng light without a second
> mortgage
> | >> > > on
> | >> the
> | >> > > house?
> | >> > >
> | >> > > Thanks for your help. Gary
> |
> |
>
>

Dave Lee

Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
on?
"HarryS" <harry01@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8K-dnYsmmckGkavfRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> Maybe you should go on the Jay Leno show.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@***.net> wrote in message
> news:D9nZd.63337$7z6.61539@lakeread04...
> | lol, funny how people make a mountain out of a mole hill, hahaha. I had
> my
> | check engine light come on about a month ago and thanks to already
> hearing
> | (last year?) about the on,off,on,off,on trick (from Bill) I pulled the
> codes
> | on my odometer. Bad news is the code told me my tranny was destroyed
> but
> | that's ok.
> |
> | "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | news:4235F9C8.9BA2F9AD@***.net...
> | > Geez! What's with you! The link will tell him, he may pull the
> | > codes, by simply turning the ignition on, off, on, off, on, and read
> the
> | > codes from the odometer.
> | > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >
> | > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> | >>
> | >> Bill's link gives all of the codes that are possible, but not all
> cars
> | >> can
> | >> generate all of the codes.
> | >>
> | >> If there is a code, and all cars generate it, it will mean the same
> thing
> | >> all of the time. But if there is a code that a car can't make, then
> it
> | >> simply can't make it.
> | >>
> | >> I noticed an error in the list.
> | >> P0439
> | >> Catalyst Heater Control Circuit (Bank 2)
> | >>
> | >> P0439
> | >> Evaporative Emission Control System
> | >>
> | >> Notice that these two symptoms both use the same code, I think this
> is
> an
> | >> error. The Evaporative EmissionControl System fault is P0440. This
> code
> | >> means the evaporative system isn't sealed, which happens when the gas
> cap
> | >> is
> | >> left off, and other faults can be triggered as well. These subsequent
> | >> faults
> | >> can either dial the fault in to a particular part, or can simply be a
> | >> reaction to the open system. My strategy would be to make a list of
> the
> | >> codes, then reset them and wait to see if the light comes back on
> again
> | >> once
> | >> the gas cap has been put on correctly, or replaced if defective.
> | >>
> | >> One can also search the web for "OBD II CODES" and come up with a
> variety
> | >> of
> | >> hits that give the varous codes and some even list up the diagnostic
> | >> scanners that can pull the codes. The diagnostic tools are available
> in
> a
> | >> range of prices, the more expensive units have additional features.
> | >>
> | >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | >> news:4235E517.54D2E9C5@***.net...
> | >> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> | >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >> >
> | >> > Othello wrote:
> | >> > >
> | >> > > RE 2002 Jeep Cherokee, 6 Cyl.
> | >> > >
> | >> > > I had a problem passing the State of NJ emissions test. The guy
> said
> | >> > > it
> | >> was
> | >> > > the gas cap. But, it passed and I happily left. Now, I have a
> Chk
> | >> Engine
> | >> > > Light. The car runs beautifully. Could this be the gas cap
> acting
> | >> > > up?
> | >> Is
> | >> > > there a way to confirm the Check Eng light without a second
> mortgage
> | >> > > on
> | >> the
> | >> > > house?
> | >> > >
> | >> > > Thanks for your help. Gary
> |
> |
>
>

Dave Lee

Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
on?
"HarryS" <harry01@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8K-dnYsmmckGkavfRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> Maybe you should go on the Jay Leno show.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@***.net> wrote in message
> news:D9nZd.63337$7z6.61539@lakeread04...
> | lol, funny how people make a mountain out of a mole hill, hahaha. I had
> my
> | check engine light come on about a month ago and thanks to already
> hearing
> | (last year?) about the on,off,on,off,on trick (from Bill) I pulled the
> codes
> | on my odometer. Bad news is the code told me my tranny was destroyed
> but
> | that's ok.
> |
> | "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | news:4235F9C8.9BA2F9AD@***.net...
> | > Geez! What's with you! The link will tell him, he may pull the
> | > codes, by simply turning the ignition on, off, on, off, on, and read
> the
> | > codes from the odometer.
> | > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >
> | > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> | >>
> | >> Bill's link gives all of the codes that are possible, but not all
> cars
> | >> can
> | >> generate all of the codes.
> | >>
> | >> If there is a code, and all cars generate it, it will mean the same
> thing
> | >> all of the time. But if there is a code that a car can't make, then
> it
> | >> simply can't make it.
> | >>
> | >> I noticed an error in the list.
> | >> P0439
> | >> Catalyst Heater Control Circuit (Bank 2)
> | >>
> | >> P0439
> | >> Evaporative Emission Control System
> | >>
> | >> Notice that these two symptoms both use the same code, I think this
> is
> an
> | >> error. The Evaporative EmissionControl System fault is P0440. This
> code
> | >> means the evaporative system isn't sealed, which happens when the gas
> cap
> | >> is
> | >> left off, and other faults can be triggered as well. These subsequent
> | >> faults
> | >> can either dial the fault in to a particular part, or can simply be a
> | >> reaction to the open system. My strategy would be to make a list of
> the
> | >> codes, then reset them and wait to see if the light comes back on
> again
> | >> once
> | >> the gas cap has been put on correctly, or replaced if defective.
> | >>
> | >> One can also search the web for "OBD II CODES" and come up with a
> variety
> | >> of
> | >> hits that give the varous codes and some even list up the diagnostic
> | >> scanners that can pull the codes. The diagnostic tools are available
> in
> a
> | >> range of prices, the more expensive units have additional features.
> | >>
> | >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> | >> news:4235E517.54D2E9C5@***.net...
> | >> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/faultcodes.htm
> | >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> | >> >
> | >> > Othello wrote:
> | >> > >
> | >> > > RE 2002 Jeep Cherokee, 6 Cyl.
> | >> > >
> | >> > > I had a problem passing the State of NJ emissions test. The guy
> said
> | >> > > it
> | >> was
> | >> > > the gas cap. But, it passed and I happily left. Now, I have a
> Chk
> | >> Engine
> | >> > > Light. The car runs beautifully. Could this be the gas cap
> acting
> | >> > > up?
> | >> Is
> | >> > > there a way to confirm the Check Eng light without a second
> mortgage
> | >> > > on
> | >> the
> | >> > > house?
> | >> > >
> | >> > > Thanks for your help. Gary
> |
> |
>
>

DougW

Dave Lee did pass the time by typing:
> Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
> words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
> on?

Yes and yes.

There are three basic types of codes. Ones that set but don't display (non critical), ones that set but can be cleared, and ones
that set that require the DRB to clear.

Can't remember what DC calls them. micanic would know.

--
DougW

DougW

Dave Lee did pass the time by typing:
> Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
> words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
> on?

Yes and yes.

There are three basic types of codes. Ones that set but don't display (non critical), ones that set but can be cleared, and ones
that set that require the DRB to clear.

Can't remember what DC calls them. micanic would know.

--
DougW

DougW

Dave Lee did pass the time by typing:
> Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
> words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light coming
> on?

Yes and yes.

There are three basic types of codes. Ones that set but don't display (non critical), ones that set but can be cleared, and ones
that set that require the DRB to clear.

Can't remember what DC calls them. micanic would know.

--
DougW

Patrick

I have a small leak in my down pipe after hitting a rock, When im stuck in
the traffic for too long the sensor will detect the small leak and will give
me check engine and then the GC is running terrible. I disconnect the
battery for 10 Sec and tada the light dissapear. The code might stay log in
the computer but it's running ok and not worse or better on gas then before.


Pat


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
uUpZd.11484$ju.9519@okepread07...
> Dave Lee did pass the time by typing:
>> Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
>> words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light
>> coming
>> on?
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> There are three basic types of codes. Ones that set but don't display
> (non critical), ones that set but can be cleared, and ones that set that
> require the DRB to clear.
>
> Can't remember what DC calls them. micanic would know.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Patrick

I have a small leak in my down pipe after hitting a rock, When im stuck in
the traffic for too long the sensor will detect the small leak and will give
me check engine and then the GC is running terrible. I disconnect the
battery for 10 Sec and tada the light dissapear. The code might stay log in
the computer but it's running ok and not worse or better on gas then before.


Pat


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
uUpZd.11484$ju.9519@okepread07...
> Dave Lee did pass the time by typing:
>> Is it possible to have error codes without a check engine light? In other
>> words, is it an idea to periodicaly check for codes without the light
>> coming
>> on?
>
> Yes and yes.
>
> There are three basic types of codes. Ones that set but don't display
> (non critical), ones that set but can be cleared, and ones that set that
> require the DRB to clear.
>
> Can't remember what DC calls them. micanic would know.
>
> --
> DougW
>