Full time 4wd or not?!?
#71
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Yeah well I went there, was gonna be a pilot! Then pretty much flunked
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
#72
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Yeah well I went there, was gonna be a pilot! Then pretty much flunked
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
#73
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
Yeah well I went there, was gonna be a pilot! Then pretty much flunked
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
out so I got an accounting degree instead. My suite mate was Aviation
Maint Tech, going for his A&P as well. When I saw Spokane, Boeing was
the first thing that popped into my head. Anyhoo, nice to meet ya.
(The) Jay
John Davies wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:41 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ERAU stands for Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. It's in Daytona
>>Beach. They offer degrees in flight, various aviation maintenance, and
>>aerospace and electrical engineering. I had a suite mate my freshman
>>year by the name of John Davies. Thanks for the reply though.
>>
>>
>
>Gee, if you had said Embry-Riddle I would have known right off what
>you were talking about. I never went there, but I earned my A&P
>licenses from Spartan in Tulsa in 1977.
>
>John Davies (the other one)
>Spokane WA USA
>
>
#74
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
I am worried that he is feeling the Full Time 4WD through the steering
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
#75
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
I am worried that he is feeling the Full Time 4WD through the steering
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
#76
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
I am worried that he is feeling the Full Time 4WD through the steering
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
wheel. It seems to me that this should be pretty transparent if it was
really a Full Time system. Perhaps the viscious coupling is toast ...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eKmAb.27819$Bk1.8193@fed1read05...
> Full-time on your Cherokee means just that, full-time... both axles are
> engaged all the time when you're in any of the 4x4 settings. Yes, the
> full-time position is the correct one to use on the roads and its use will
> not damage the transfer case, that's what it was designed to do.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
> news:5mmAb.10470$LV1.7309@okepread05...
> > My wife has a 00 XJ with the transfer case that allows you to use 4hi,
> 4lo,
> > and "full time" 4wd for "all road surfaces". Or so it says. We've been
> > getting a bit of snow/freezing rain lately, so I put it in full-time 4wd
> > just in case we hit some slick spots running around town.
> >
> > Going around corners I can tell it is in 4wd. The tires pull back and
> forth
> > on the pavement. I thought that the full-time selection only engaged
the
> > front axle when they were slipping. The manual says full-time can be
used
> > on all road surfaces all the time, but wouldn't this damage my transfer
> > case?!?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Eric
> > 00 XJ LTD
> >
> >
>
>
#77
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
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> Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds
like
> a good option to have to me.
>
Yes, there is a reason. It is too large to fit.
#78
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
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> Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds
like
> a good option to have to me.
>
Yes, there is a reason. It is too large to fit.
#79
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:WMnAb.10480$LV1.9798@okepread05...
> Is there a reason the same transfer case isn't used in the TJ? Sounds
like
> a good option to have to me.
>
Yes, there is a reason. It is too large to fit.
#80
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Re: Full time 4wd or not?!?
If you feel the steering wheel move during tight turns, then the tires are
trying to make the tcase do things it doesn't want to do because the front
tires and the rear tire do not turn at the same speed. The front tires
should not be sending feedback through the steering wheel, if they are then
something should be looked at. Me thinks you are having issues with the
viscous coupling, or the tcase linkage is picking the part time 4HI mode.
PS
You need to change a setting in your news reader. You are posting in HTML
much of the time, and HTML sucks.
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:cHqAb.10496$LV1.1024@okepread05...
> The only time I noticed a difference was during slow, sharp turns on
> pavement. The difference is that I'm-in-4wd feeling when you turn. I
only
> recognize it because if I'm on the trail and take a sharp turn in the TJ
it
> does the same thing. The wheels... twitch.. for lack of a better way to
put
> it... once every rotation or two. Again, this is only in SHARP turns on
> pavement.
>
> Eric
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:0bqAb.27847$Bk1.15264@fed1read05...
> > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode
should
> > not
> > > result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
> >
> > The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system
that
> > engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler
purely
> > mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't
> recall
> > my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
> > there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
trying to make the tcase do things it doesn't want to do because the front
tires and the rear tire do not turn at the same speed. The front tires
should not be sending feedback through the steering wheel, if they are then
something should be looked at. Me thinks you are having issues with the
viscous coupling, or the tcase linkage is picking the part time 4HI mode.
PS
You need to change a setting in your news reader. You are posting in HTML
much of the time, and HTML sucks.
"Eric" <gymrat@***.net> wrote in message
news:cHqAb.10496$LV1.1024@okepread05...
> The only time I noticed a difference was during slow, sharp turns on
> pavement. The difference is that I'm-in-4wd feeling when you turn. I
only
> recognize it because if I'm on the trail and take a sharp turn in the TJ
it
> does the same thing. The wheels... twitch.. for lack of a better way to
put
> it... once every rotation or two. Again, this is only in SHARP turns on
> pavement.
>
> Eric
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:0bqAb.27847$Bk1.15264@fed1read05...
> > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:w0pAb.14$Qg6.43032@news.uswest.net... The all wheel drive mode
should
> > not
> > > result in a noticable grabbing on turns.
> >
> > The Cherokee's full-time system is not an AWD (a reactive 2wd system
that
> > engages the other axle when slippage is noted), it's a much simpler
purely
> > mechanical full-time 4wd system which is different from AWD. I don't
> recall
> > my long-gone Cherokee ever pulling when it was in full-time 4wd, perhaps
> > there's a bad u-joint on one of the front axleshafts.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>