fuel mileage drop problem solved!
08-11-2006, 08:59 PM
#21
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
> do you have tools like that.
It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot
more accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more
accurate than your "hope" technique.
If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then
the world is a better place...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
> do you have tools like that.
It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot
more accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more
accurate than your "hope" technique.
If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then
the world is a better place...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
08-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
I'm guessing Mike's reply will be something along the lines of "Back in the
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
08-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
I'm guessing Mike's reply will be something along the lines of "Back in the
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
08-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
I'm guessing Mike's reply will be something along the lines of "Back in the
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
08-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
I'm guessing Mike's reply will be something along the lines of "Back in the
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
early days of computerized carburetors it was commonly possible to manually
tune the carbs for better power, mileage and lesser emissions than allow the
early computer controls to do the adjustments"
That statement would be true..
Generally the only time a properly adjusted carb needed attention was when
it was rebuild time which was every couple years.
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:N9CdnaBtM4iRtUDZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
>> gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
>> they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
>> rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
>> do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot more
> accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more accurate
> than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then the
> world is a better place...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
umm... appears i set off a little bit of a firestorm here...
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
umm... appears i set off a little bit of a firestorm here...
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
umm... appears i set off a little bit of a firestorm here...
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
umm... appears i set off a little bit of a firestorm here...
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
anyway, yes mike the screws are still blanked off - until sunday at
least when i will be pulling the carb to change out the rounded
mounting nuts with new hardened ones. i am hoping that adjusting the
idle screws will even out my idle somewhat - it still lopes a bit from
say 500-600 rpms...
BUT wait mike, i thought that the idle mixture screws only affected the
mixture AT IDLE! so running lean on the highway or at > ~1200 rpm
wouldnt be affected by their position at all... correct? in any case
she's been running like this for about 5 of the last 6 months without
any noticable issues. additionally, i would suspect that if it was
running so lean that i might hole a piston i'd be noticing a little
backfire on the overrun etc etc.
oh yeah - i DONT have a carb mixture measurement device, whatever it
is... i have seen vacuum gauges for doing carb 'timing' adjustment on
motorcycles with multiple carbs but otherwise i dont know any other way
of adjusting the damn things besides seat-of-the-pants, old-school,
shade-tree, guestimation. not to say that that's my preferred method -
just the only option i currently have. if anyone with a carb
thing-a-majig wants to come and help me tune this sucker on sunday by
all means - come on by!
cheers,
bennett
08-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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Re: fuel mileage drop problem solved!
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> > And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
> > gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
> > they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
> > rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
> > do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot
> more accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more
> accurate than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then
> the world is a better place...
>
> --
What billy ray said....
Plus, the OP is trying to make a carb behave by adjusting the pins on
the 'stepper' motor. This means he has something like 4 or 5 different
static places or 'steps' to put the pins on.
If he had the idle mix screws in the equation, my answer would have been
different than telling him to put it back 'like the factory' originally
set it with the pins in the center.....
I guess if all you know is a computer printout, this doesn't make any
sense to you, but putting it back 'factory' makes perfect sense to
me....
Too bad computers seem to make people forget the basics....
Mike
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>
> > And I have yet to see any back yard mechanic have an 'air fuel mix
> > gauge'. The CJ's are Carburated Jeeps that were manually tuned since
> > they came out in 1949. Only since the sad demise of mechanics and the
> > rise of 'technicians' that only know what a computer tells them is wrong
> > do you have tools like that.
>
> It's not a computer Mike, everything that lights up and is attached to
> sensors isn't necessarilly a computer... It's a scientific measuring
> device for combustion temps that can tell you if you're running too lean
> or wasting gas (and POWER) by running too rich. It's a HELL of a lot
> more accurate than your gut feeling, and it's WAY WAY freakin more
> accurate than your "hope" technique.
>
> If "computers" and scientific data providing guages caused the demise of
> mechanical yokles and non-adapting-stuck-in-the-past technophobes then
> the world is a better place...
>
> --
What billy ray said....
Plus, the OP is trying to make a carb behave by adjusting the pins on
the 'stepper' motor. This means he has something like 4 or 5 different
static places or 'steps' to put the pins on.
If he had the idle mix screws in the equation, my answer would have been
different than telling him to put it back 'like the factory' originally
set it with the pins in the center.....
I guess if all you know is a computer printout, this doesn't make any
sense to you, but putting it back 'factory' makes perfect sense to
me....
Too bad computers seem to make people forget the basics....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)