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Will Honea 12-03-2007 01:28 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Scott in Baltimore wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the ice
>> off of it? It's that time of year again.

>
>
> PAM cooking spray.


That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some of my
big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff seemed to
hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an outhouse) that
would get ice built up in the hinges to the point that the door didn't open
until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to open out, so the hinge was
exposed). I didn't have any notion of keeping the ice off when I sprayed
the hinges, but I get almost no ice buildup there any more, or at least it
breaks off easily. I don't use the outhouse for much besides storage
anymore (Hurrah for indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much
attention and that might have just been the weather instead of the spray.
At least the bears didn't try to lick it off.

Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil or so)
plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small satellite type.
Another guy sitting here swears that something like Turtle Wax will also
work, but I have my doubts on that one.

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J. Clarke 12-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Will Honea wrote:
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep
>>> the ice off of it? It's that time of year again.

>>
>>
>> PAM cooking spray.

>
> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some
> of my big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff
> seemed to hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an
> outhouse) that would get ice built up in the hinges to the point
> that
> the door didn't open until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to
> open out, so the hinge was exposed). I didn't have any notion of
> keeping the ice off when I sprayed the hinges, but I get almost no
> ice buildup there any more, or at least it breaks off easily. I
> don't use the outhouse for much besides storage anymore (Hurrah for
> indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much attention and
> that might have just been the weather instead of the spray. At least
> the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>
> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil
> or so) plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small
> satellite type. Another guy sitting here swears that something like
> Turtle Wax will also work, but I have my doubts on that one.


There's some stuff licensed from Boeing called "Boeshield" that lets
ice slip off of aluminum wheels and hte like. Don't know how well it
would work on a satellite dish.

Personally I put up a heated dish (you can find them on ebay for 75
bucks or so). Google "Hotshot satellite heater" and you'll find a
bunch of suppliers, I don't know who has the best prices.


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--John
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J. Clarke 12-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Will Honea wrote:
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep
>>> the ice off of it? It's that time of year again.

>>
>>
>> PAM cooking spray.

>
> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some
> of my big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff
> seemed to hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an
> outhouse) that would get ice built up in the hinges to the point
> that
> the door didn't open until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to
> open out, so the hinge was exposed). I didn't have any notion of
> keeping the ice off when I sprayed the hinges, but I get almost no
> ice buildup there any more, or at least it breaks off easily. I
> don't use the outhouse for much besides storage anymore (Hurrah for
> indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much attention and
> that might have just been the weather instead of the spray. At least
> the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>
> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil
> or so) plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small
> satellite type. Another guy sitting here swears that something like
> Turtle Wax will also work, but I have my doubts on that one.


There's some stuff licensed from Boeing called "Boeshield" that lets
ice slip off of aluminum wheels and hte like. Don't know how well it
would work on a satellite dish.

Personally I put up a heated dish (you can find them on ebay for 75
bucks or so). Google "Hotshot satellite heater" and you'll find a
bunch of suppliers, I don't know who has the best prices.


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



one out of many daves 12-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Yeah I have heard of car wax before too.
I need to try it on mine, or the cheap trick below. <g>

Pam spray sure sounds easy though! lol

Spray
http://www.wx2100.com/faqs.asp

I believe that there are custom made covers for some dishes too.
http://www.montanasatellite.com/sate...ish_covers.htm
here is a simple and cheap cover trick
http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/315/hat.aspx



Will Honea wrote:
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the ice
>>> off of it? It's that time of year again.

>>
>> PAM cooking spray.

>
> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some of my
> big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff seemed to
> hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an outhouse) that
> would get ice built up in the hinges to the point that the door didn't open
> until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to open out, so the hinge was
> exposed). I didn't have any notion of keeping the ice off when I sprayed
> the hinges, but I get almost no ice buildup there any more, or at least it
> breaks off easily. I don't use the outhouse for much besides storage
> anymore (Hurrah for indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much
> attention and that might have just been the weather instead of the spray.
> At least the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>
> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil or so)
> plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small satellite type.
> Another guy sitting here swears that something like Turtle Wax will also
> work, but I have my doubts on that one.
>


one out of many daves 12-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Yeah I have heard of car wax before too.
I need to try it on mine, or the cheap trick below. <g>

Pam spray sure sounds easy though! lol

Spray
http://www.wx2100.com/faqs.asp

I believe that there are custom made covers for some dishes too.
http://www.montanasatellite.com/sate...ish_covers.htm
here is a simple and cheap cover trick
http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/315/hat.aspx



Will Honea wrote:
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the ice
>>> off of it? It's that time of year again.

>>
>> PAM cooking spray.

>
> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some of my
> big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff seemed to
> hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an outhouse) that
> would get ice built up in the hinges to the point that the door didn't open
> until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to open out, so the hinge was
> exposed). I didn't have any notion of keeping the ice off when I sprayed
> the hinges, but I get almost no ice buildup there any more, or at least it
> breaks off easily. I don't use the outhouse for much besides storage
> anymore (Hurrah for indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much
> attention and that might have just been the weather instead of the spray.
> At least the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>
> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil or so)
> plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small satellite type.
> Another guy sitting here swears that something like Turtle Wax will also
> work, but I have my doubts on that one.
>


shaqtopz 12-03-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
On Dec 2, 10:55 am, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Clean the latch mechanism with a suitable cleaner, then leave it dry.
>
> WD40makes a very crappy lubricant, and my guess is that your latch has seem
> ample doses ofWD40over the years.WD40is a reasonably good cleaner, I
> suppose. It will disolve the gunk and crud that is beating you up, but it
> will dry and turn to goo, cauisng you to have problems again.
>
> If you useWD40to clean the gunk and goo, then you need another product to
> remove theWD40. I do not think yo ucan clean the latch while it is still
> installed in the door, I would be opening the door to get the latch out,
> then clean the latch on your work bench. After it is thoroughly cleaned and
> dried, put it back in.
>
> I think your trouble is that you have ---- and crud built up inside the
> latch, and this mess freezes and keeps the latch from operating freely. I
> don't know what lubricant ought to be used, but going out on my limb, I'd
> suggest a good White Lithium grease that will not freeze. Having said that,
> I live in Southern California where we seldom see freezing temps, so what do
> I know?
>
> "Sailor_Jeff" <toy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > hi guys,

>
> > I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze) when
> > it drops below freezing

>
> > does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this

>
> > thanks
> > Jeff

>
> > IN Frozen Canada- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I found a product that works exceptionally well. The Deoxit people
have a MechanicALL lube that works and stays on the surface. I got
mine at Fry's.
Oh, and if you haven't used Deoxit, you should. Mechanicall is used
on all mechanicall applications and DeoxIT is used on all electrical
applications. If actually chemically improves connections. I have
used it for over 10 years and if the Mechanicall works as good as the
Deoxit, it will be my best find of the year. The Ned R. Healy
distributors now carry both - my friend works at a car dealer. Just
search Mechanicall on Google and it should pop up.
Mike

shaqtopz 12-03-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
On Dec 2, 10:55 am, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Clean the latch mechanism with a suitable cleaner, then leave it dry.
>
> WD40makes a very crappy lubricant, and my guess is that your latch has seem
> ample doses ofWD40over the years.WD40is a reasonably good cleaner, I
> suppose. It will disolve the gunk and crud that is beating you up, but it
> will dry and turn to goo, cauisng you to have problems again.
>
> If you useWD40to clean the gunk and goo, then you need another product to
> remove theWD40. I do not think yo ucan clean the latch while it is still
> installed in the door, I would be opening the door to get the latch out,
> then clean the latch on your work bench. After it is thoroughly cleaned and
> dried, put it back in.
>
> I think your trouble is that you have ---- and crud built up inside the
> latch, and this mess freezes and keeps the latch from operating freely. I
> don't know what lubricant ought to be used, but going out on my limb, I'd
> suggest a good White Lithium grease that will not freeze. Having said that,
> I live in Southern California where we seldom see freezing temps, so what do
> I know?
>
> "Sailor_Jeff" <toy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > hi guys,

>
> > I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze) when
> > it drops below freezing

>
> > does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this

>
> > thanks
> > Jeff

>
> > IN Frozen Canada- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I found a product that works exceptionally well. The Deoxit people
have a MechanicALL lube that works and stays on the surface. I got
mine at Fry's.
Oh, and if you haven't used Deoxit, you should. Mechanicall is used
on all mechanicall applications and DeoxIT is used on all electrical
applications. If actually chemically improves connections. I have
used it for over 10 years and if the Mechanicall works as good as the
Deoxit, it will be my best find of the year. The Ned R. Healy
distributors now carry both - my friend works at a car dealer. Just
search Mechanicall on Google and it should pop up.
Mike

Will Honea 12-03-2007 01:01 PM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
one out of many daves wrote:

> Yeah I have heard of car wax before too.
> I need to try it on mine, or the cheap trick below. <g>
>
> Pam spray sure sounds easy though! lol
>
> Spray
> http://www.wx2100.com/faqs.asp
>
> I believe that there are custom made covers for some dishes too.
> http://www.montanasatellite.com/sate...ish_covers.htm
> here is a simple and cheap cover trick
> http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/315/hat.aspx
>
>
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the
>>>> ice
>>>> off of it? It's that time of year again.
>>>
>>> PAM cooking spray.

>>
>> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some of my
>> big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff seemed to
>> hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an outhouse) that
>> would get ice built up in the hinges to the point that the door didn't
>> open until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to open out, so the
>> hinge was
>> exposed). I didn't have any notion of keeping the ice off when I sprayed
>> the hinges, but I get almost no ice buildup there any more, or at least
>> it
>> breaks off easily. I don't use the outhouse for much besides storage
>> anymore (Hurrah for indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much
>> attention and that might have just been the weather instead of the spray.
>> At least the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>>
>> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil or
>> so) plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small satellite
>> type. Another guy sitting here swears that something like Turtle Wax will
>> also work, but I have my doubts on that one.


Just speculating, but I wonder how something like the heater strips for
pipes would work? Applied to the back of the dish, of course.

--
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Will Honea 12-03-2007 01:01 PM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
one out of many daves wrote:

> Yeah I have heard of car wax before too.
> I need to try it on mine, or the cheap trick below. <g>
>
> Pam spray sure sounds easy though! lol
>
> Spray
> http://www.wx2100.com/faqs.asp
>
> I believe that there are custom made covers for some dishes too.
> http://www.montanasatellite.com/sate...ish_covers.htm
> here is a simple and cheap cover trick
> http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/315/hat.aspx
>
>
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the
>>>> ice
>>>> off of it? It's that time of year again.
>>>
>>> PAM cooking spray.

>>
>> That works for a while but if it does anything like it does on some of my
>> big pots it will age to a gummy mess. This PTFE spray-on stuff seemed to
>> hold up pretty well in the weather. I had one door on an outhouse) that
>> would get ice built up in the hinges to the point that the door didn't
>> open until Spring (genius carpenter hung the door to open out, so the
>> hinge was
>> exposed). I didn't have any notion of keeping the ice off when I sprayed
>> the hinges, but I get almost no ice buildup there any more, or at least
>> it
>> breaks off easily. I don't use the outhouse for much besides storage
>> anymore (Hurrah for indoor toilets in the winter!!) so I don't pay much
>> attention and that might have just been the weather instead of the spray.
>> At least the bears didn't try to lick it off.
>>
>> Best answer I've seen for the dish is either a fairly heavy (10 mil or
>> so) plastic sheet stretched over the dish, especially the small satellite
>> type. Another guy sitting here swears that something like Turtle Wax will
>> also work, but I have my doubts on that one.


Just speculating, but I wonder how something like the heater strips for
pipes would work? Applied to the back of the dish, of course.

--
Will Honea

--
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Lon Stowell 12-03-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 

Several options Earl.

1. Switch to Comcrap.

2. Watch more ----.

3. Hire a journalism major with a hair dryer and ladder.

I have used the old fashioned teflon spray to help de-ice, but you have
to refresh it every now and then, and I havent been able to find the
stuff that has the milky looking texture any more.



Earle Horton wrote:
> By the way, what do you recommend for my satellite dish, to keep the ice
> off of it? It's that time of year again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:47531d29$0$26086$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Note that I did say blow the parts dry and then lube them with

> something
>> else <g>. The reason I use WD40 is that the pressure spray does a

> decent
>> wash job and not for it's lubrication properties.
>>
>> I had good luck using a spray lube that was basically suspended PTFE

> in a
>> carrier. I bought the can several years back to lube door and window
>> locks/hardware at the mountain cabin and it worked really well on car

> doors
>> and locks. Used it up and haven't seen the same stuff for a while but

> it
>> sounds similar to what you describe - but this stuff was a lot cheaper

> than
>> most bicycle specific brands.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> WD40 won't stay like motor oil will. I really don't know the best

> lube
>>> for this application, but it appears that you have to redo it every
>>> couple years once the factory lube turns solid. I tried some high
>>> dollar bicycle lube with "suspended teflon particles" but it really
>>> didn't do any better than 10w30 or ATF.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:47524d90$0$25977$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>> I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a

> spray
>>> wash,
>>>> especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag

> under
>>> the
>>>> work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned

> area
>>> dry
>>>> and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door
>>> lock you
>>>> then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few
>>> days....
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar
>>> "brew"
>>>>> for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission
>>> fluid
>>>>> left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the
>>> factory
>>>>> used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I
>>> got to
>>>>> it it was like molasses in January.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or
>>> grease,
>>>>>> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient
>>> temperature.
>>>>>> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best
>>>>> multigrades
>>>>>> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you

> just
>>> use
>>>>> a
>>>>>> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease
>>> even
>>>>>> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of

> pure
>>>>> synth
>>>>>> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of

> which
>>>>> you
>>>>>> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease
>>> congealed
>>>>> so
>>>>>>> I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally
>>> had
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor

> oil.
>>>>> You
>>>>>>> could have a similar problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>

> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches

> freeze)
>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> it drops below freezing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IN Frozen Canada
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Will Honea
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>

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>>
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>>

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