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Will Honea 12-02-2007 02:06 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a spray wash,
especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag under the
work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned area dry
and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door lock you
then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few days....

Earle Horton wrote:

> It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar "brew"
> for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission fluid
> left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the factory
> used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I got to
> it it was like molasses in January.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or grease,
>> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient temperature.
>> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best

> multigrades
>> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
>>
>> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you just use

> a
>> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease even
>> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
>>
>> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of pure

> synth
>> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of which

> you
>> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
>>
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease congealed

> so
>> > I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally had

> to
>> > take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor oil.

> You
>> > could have a similar problem.
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >

> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> hi guys,
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze)

> when
>> >> it drops below freezing
>> >>
>> >> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >> IN Frozen Canada
>> >
>> >
>> >

>
>
>


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Earle Horton 12-02-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
WD40 won't stay like motor oil will. I really don't know the best lube
for this application, but it appears that you have to redo it every
couple years once the factory lube turns solid. I tried some high
dollar bicycle lube with "suspended teflon particles" but it really
didn't do any better than 10w30 or ATF.

Cheers,

Earle

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47524d90$0$25977$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a spray

wash,
> especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag under

the
> work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned area

dry
> and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door

lock you
> then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few

days....
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar

"brew"
> > for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission

fluid
> > left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the

factory
> > used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I

got to
> > it it was like molasses in January.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or

grease,
> >> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient

temperature.
> >> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best

> > multigrades
> >> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
> >>
> >> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you just

use
> > a
> >> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease

even
> >> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
> >>
> >> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of pure

> > synth
> >> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of which

> > you
> >> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
> >>
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease

congealed
> > so
> >> > I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally

had
> > to
> >> > take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor oil.

> > You
> >> > could have a similar problem.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >

> >

news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> hi guys,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze)

> > when
> >> >> it drops below freezing
> >> >>
> >> >> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> Jeff
> >> >>
> >> >> IN Frozen Canada
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Will Honea
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




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Earle Horton 12-02-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
WD40 won't stay like motor oil will. I really don't know the best lube
for this application, but it appears that you have to redo it every
couple years once the factory lube turns solid. I tried some high
dollar bicycle lube with "suspended teflon particles" but it really
didn't do any better than 10w30 or ATF.

Cheers,

Earle

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47524d90$0$25977$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a spray

wash,
> especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag under

the
> work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned area

dry
> and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door

lock you
> then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few

days....
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar

"brew"
> > for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission

fluid
> > left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the

factory
> > used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I

got to
> > it it was like molasses in January.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or

grease,
> >> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient

temperature.
> >> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best

> > multigrades
> >> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
> >>
> >> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you just

use
> > a
> >> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease

even
> >> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
> >>
> >> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of pure

> > synth
> >> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of which

> > you
> >> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
> >>
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease

congealed
> > so
> >> > I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally

had
> > to
> >> > take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor oil.

> > You
> >> > could have a similar problem.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck,
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >

> >

news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> hi guys,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze)

> > when
> >> >> it drops below freezing
> >> >>
> >> >> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> Jeff
> >> >>
> >> >> IN Frozen Canada
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Will Honea
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




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Frank_v7.0 12-02-2007 10:51 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> WD40 won't stay like motor oil will. I really don't know the best lube
> for this application, but it appears that you have to redo it every
> couple years once the factory lube turns solid. I tried some high
> dollar bicycle lube with "suspended teflon particles" but it really
> didn't do any better than 10w30 or ATF.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:47524d90$0$25977$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a spray

> wash,
>> especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag under

> the
>> work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned area

> dry
>> and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door

> lock you
>> then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few

> days....
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar

> "brew"
>>> for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission

> fluid
>>> left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the

> factory
>>> used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I

> got to
>>> it it was like molasses in January.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or

> grease,
>>>> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient

> temperature.
>>>> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best
>>> multigrades
>>>> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
>>>>
>>>> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you just

> use
>>> a
>>>> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease

> even
>>>> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
>>>>
>>>> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of pure
>>> synth
>>>> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of which
>>> you
>>>> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease

> congealed
>>> so
>>>>> I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally

> had
>>> to
>>>>> take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor oil.
>>> You
>>>>> could have a similar problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>

> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze)
>>> when
>>>>>> it drops below freezing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IN Frozen Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>

>
>
>

Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And in case of
emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter (holding it in
a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up. Might have to do it
more than once.

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 12-02-2007 10:51 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> WD40 won't stay like motor oil will. I really don't know the best lube
> for this application, but it appears that you have to redo it every
> couple years once the factory lube turns solid. I tried some high
> dollar bicycle lube with "suspended teflon particles" but it really
> didn't do any better than 10w30 or ATF.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:47524d90$0$25977$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> I find that WD40 will disolve about any grease. I use it like a spray

> wash,
>> especially in tight spots (like the lock linkages). Stuff a rag under

> the
>> work area to catch the run-off and have at it. Blow the cleaned area

> dry
>> and spray it with a good low temp lube. Of course, it it's a door

> lock you
>> then have to put up with that sickly sweet smell of WD40 for a few

> days....
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>> It's not that cold here, but yeah I hear you and I have a similar

> "brew"
>>> for such occasions. I have a quart of Type F auto transmission

> fluid
>>> left here by a previous property owner... I don't know what the

> factory
>>> used to lube the door mechanism on my Wrangler, but by the time I

> got to
>>> it it was like molasses in January.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XYKdnaqxppVMBszanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> With the caution that before you lube anything with any oil or

> grease,
>>>> you try pouring that oil or grease at the local ambient

> temperature.
>>>> In some places it gets cold enough to turn all but the best
>>> multigrades
>>>> into something about as thick as Vaseline.
>>>>
>>>> Trick is to get all of any old congealed grease out. If you just

> use
>>> a
>>>> penetrating oil, it may just evaporate and leave the old grease

> even
>>>> more nastily distributed in the locking mechanism.
>>>>
>>>> The best cure I've discovered is a home made witches brew of pure
>>> synth
>>>> multigrade motor oil, STP, and Marvel Mystery...the latter of which
>>> you
>>>> could probably substitute refined kerosene for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> I don't know about the TJ but on the YJ the factory grease

> congealed
>>> so
>>>>> I couldn't lock or unlock my doors in cold weather. I finally

> had
>>> to
>>>>> take them apart and lube the offending parts with some motor oil.
>>> You
>>>>> could have a similar problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sailor_Jeff" <toycen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>

> news:cb5c13bd-d6bb-4fe3-aef3-31b14ad023ab@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 2001 TJ and the doors wont stay closed (latches freeze)
>>> when
>>>>>> it drops below freezing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> does anyone know what i should lubricate to prevent this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IN Frozen Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>

>
>
>

Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And in case of
emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter (holding it in
a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up. Might have to do it
more than once.

--
FRH

Earle Horton 12-02-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:wwA4j.21532$ya1.1618@news02.roc.ny...
....
> Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
> regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And
> in case of emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter
> (holding it in a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up.
> Might have to do it more than once.
>

We're talking about some weird looking levers and gizmos inside the
door, that connect the lock cylinder and the internal lock control with
the door latch. These are lubed from the factory with a type of gunk
that congeals after a few seasons. You can heat up the key with a match
or cigarette lighter all day long and it won't even touch those parts.

Cheers,

Earle



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Earle Horton 12-02-2007 11:13 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:wwA4j.21532$ya1.1618@news02.roc.ny...
....
> Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
> regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And
> in case of emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter
> (holding it in a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up.
> Might have to do it more than once.
>

We're talking about some weird looking levers and gizmos inside the
door, that connect the lock cylinder and the internal lock control with
the door latch. These are lubed from the factory with a type of gunk
that congeals after a few seasons. You can heat up the key with a match
or cigarette lighter all day long and it won't even touch those parts.

Cheers,

Earle



--
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Frank_v7.0 12-02-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:wwA4j.21532$ya1.1618@news02.roc.ny...
> ...
>> Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
>> regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And
>> in case of emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter
>> (holding it in a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up.
>> Might have to do it more than once.
>>

> We're talking about some weird looking levers and gizmos inside the
> door, that connect the lock cylinder and the internal lock control with
> the door latch. These are lubed from the factory with a type of gunk
> that congeals after a few seasons. You can heat up the key with a match
> or cigarette lighter all day long and it won't even touch those parts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>
>

Ooops, disregard my previous post. :-)

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 12-02-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:wwA4j.21532$ya1.1618@news02.roc.ny...
> ...
>> Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
>> regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And
>> in case of emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter
>> (holding it in a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up.
>> Might have to do it more than once.
>>

> We're talking about some weird looking levers and gizmos inside the
> door, that connect the lock cylinder and the internal lock control with
> the door latch. These are lubed from the factory with a type of gunk
> that congeals after a few seasons. You can heat up the key with a match
> or cigarette lighter all day long and it won't even touch those parts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>
>

Ooops, disregard my previous post. :-)

--
FRH

DougW 12-02-2007 12:28 PM

Re: Frozen Doors TJ
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:

> Anybody mention graphite yet? It's a "dry" lubricant. Used it on a
> regular basis when I lived in Vermont and New Hampshire. And in case
> of emergency heat the key with a match or cigarette lighter (holding
> it in a gloved hand) and let it warm the mechanism up. Might have to
> do it more than once.


graphite is good for the inside of locks but a bit messy. Lithium grease
for low temperature works. And this stuff probably would too. :)
http://www.superior-industries.com/s...oduct_114.html

--
DougW




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