Frozen Door lock...Sorta
01-18-2006, 09:30 AM
#31
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Frozen Door lock...Sorta
Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
The temp just rose to +2C :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
> problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
> do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
> age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
> and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
> Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
> going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
> if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
>
> Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
> the dealer to do it.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
>
>>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
>>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
>>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
>>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
>>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
>>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
>>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
>>the snow is way too fricken deep)
>>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
>>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
>
> latch,
>
>>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
>
> but
>
>>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
>
> like
>
>>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
>
> unless
>
>>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
>
> lock
>
>>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
>
> getting
>
>>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
>
> door
>
>>>apart.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>>>
>>>vehicle.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>>>
>>>lubricate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>>>
>>>vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
The temp just rose to +2C :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
> problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
> do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
> age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
> and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
> Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
> going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
> if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
>
> Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
> the dealer to do it.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
>
>>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
>>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
>>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
>>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
>>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
>>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
>>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
>>the snow is way too fricken deep)
>>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
>>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
>
> latch,
>
>>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
>
> but
>
>>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
>
> like
>
>>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
>
> unless
>
>>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
>
> lock
>
>>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
>
> getting
>
>>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
>
> door
>
>>>apart.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>>>
>>>vehicle.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>>>
>>>lubricate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>>>
>>>vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
01-18-2006, 10:36 AM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Frozen Door lock...Sorta
It is not your problem if the service department is really busy. You need
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
01-18-2006, 10:36 AM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Frozen Door lock...Sorta
It is not your problem if the service department is really busy. You need
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
01-18-2006, 10:36 AM
#34
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Re: Frozen Door lock...Sorta
It is not your problem if the service department is really busy. You need
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
to get the service representative to observe the problem himself. That may
be easier said than done, but drag him out to the parking lot on a cold day,
and show him exactly what is happening.
This does not sound like a common problem, and I have waited for years for
an explanation to appear in this newsgroup and other forums. As a warranty
repair, that will make it even more difficult to get fixed. These folks are
accustomed, in the case of warranty work, to reading a bulletin and
replacing a large component assembly. Diagnosis of a complicated or obscure
problem is well beyond the mental capabilities of most of them. I wouldn't
be surprised, if they eventually replaced the door, to no avail.
That said, good luck!
Earle
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:q5idnYhu4tMAzVPeRVn-rA@magma.ca...
> Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
> And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
> They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
> I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
> to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
> anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
> The temp just rose to +2C :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had
the
> > problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where
I
> > do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit
the
> > age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of
value,
> > and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San
Juan
> > Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't
think of
> > going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill
you
> > if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
> >
> > Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can
get
> > the dealer to do it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> >>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> >>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> >>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> >>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> >>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> >>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> >>the snow is way too fricken deep)
> >>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> >>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
> >
> > latch,
> >
> >>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
> >
> > unless
> >
> >>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
> >
> > lock
> >
> >>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
> >
> > getting
> >
> >>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
> >
> > door
> >
> >>>apart.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It
is
> >>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >>>
> >>>lubricate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >>>
> >>>vehicle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not
that
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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