There is a plastic tail piece on the end of the lock cam that connects a
metal rod which unlocks the door. Sometimes that rod pops out or the
plastic piece breaks. It is a fifty cent part.
Coasty


"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:tf-dnUiXsfTupVDenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Why, "The Great White North" of coarse
> -21C translates to approximately -6F
> With a wind it's fricken cold, even for me, an avid snowmobiler
> :-)
> The passenger door is fine. I'm curios what do they use to lock/ulock
> from the button and key? Plastic?
>
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Did you try the passenger door lock? Do you have manual locks? I'm
>> guessing from the temp. reading you gave, you are not in the US. Where
>> are you from? It should be under warranty.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:I_CdnUPjpd0Jn1DeRVn-tg@magma.ca...
>>
>>>Gi'day
>>>I have a 05TJ Rubie, This is it's first winter.
>>>I previously had an 01TJ Sport.
>>>Recently when the temp dipped below -21C
>>>The door lock was giving me trouble.
>>>The key and barrel wasn't frozen but I couldn't
>>>unlock the door, it would turn but again it wouldn't
>>>unlock. Same for the inside button. I could push it
>>>but it wouldn't unlock.
>>>Anyone have any similar experience with this?
>>>MY 01TJ Sport never did this.
>>>It seems something inside the door is wrong.
>>>I'm unsure how the door lock mechanism works
>>>or how it looks inside the door.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

 

There is a plastic tail piece on the end of the lock cam that connects a
metal rod which unlocks the door. Sometimes that rod pops out or the
plastic piece breaks. It is a fifty cent part.
Coasty


"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:tf-dnUiXsfTupVDenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Why, "The Great White North" of coarse
> -21C translates to approximately -6F
> With a wind it's fricken cold, even for me, an avid snowmobiler
> :-)
> The passenger door is fine. I'm curios what do they use to lock/ulock
> from the button and key? Plastic?
>
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Did you try the passenger door lock? Do you have manual locks? I'm
>> guessing from the temp. reading you gave, you are not in the US. Where
>> are you from? It should be under warranty.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:I_CdnUPjpd0Jn1DeRVn-tg@magma.ca...
>>
>>>Gi'day
>>>I have a 05TJ Rubie, This is it's first winter.
>>>I previously had an 01TJ Sport.
>>>Recently when the temp dipped below -21C
>>>The door lock was giving me trouble.
>>>The key and barrel wasn't frozen but I couldn't
>>>unlock the door, it would turn but again it wouldn't
>>>unlock. Same for the inside button. I could push it
>>>but it wouldn't unlock.
>>>Anyone have any similar experience with this?
>>>MY 01TJ Sport never did this.
>>>It seems something inside the door is wrong.
>>>I'm unsure how the door lock mechanism works
>>>or how it looks inside the door.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

 

Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
the snow is way too fricken deep)
Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)

Earle Horton wrote:
> It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the latch,
> or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns, but
> the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move like
> it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock, unless
> it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the lock
> to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is getting
> more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the door
> apart.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>
>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>
> vehicle.
>
>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>
> lubricate
>
>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>
> vehicle
>
>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>
> there
>
>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>
>>>Earle
>
>
>

 

Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
the snow is way too fricken deep)
Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)

Earle Horton wrote:
> It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the latch,
> or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns, but
> the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move like
> it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock, unless
> it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the lock
> to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is getting
> more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the door
> apart.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>
>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>
> vehicle.
>
>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>
> lubricate
>
>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>
> vehicle
>
>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>
> there
>
>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>
>>>Earle
>
>
>

 

Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
the snow is way too fricken deep)
Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)

Earle Horton wrote:
> It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the latch,
> or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns, but
> the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move like
> it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock, unless
> it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the lock
> to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is getting
> more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the door
> apart.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>
>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>
> vehicle.
>
>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>
> lubricate
>
>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>
> vehicle
>
>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>
> there
>
>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>
>>>Earle
>
>
>

 

If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.

Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
the dealer to do it.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> (I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> the snow is way too fricken deep)
> Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
latch,
> > or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
but
> > the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
like
> > it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
unless
> > it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
lock
> > to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
getting
> > more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
door
> > apart.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >
> >> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
> >>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >
> > vehicle.
> >
> >>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >
> > lubricate
> >
> >>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >
> > vehicle
> >
> >>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >
> >
> >
>

 

If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.

Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
the dealer to do it.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> (I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> the snow is way too fricken deep)
> Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
latch,
> > or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
but
> > the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
like
> > it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
unless
> > it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
lock
> > to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
getting
> > more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
door
> > apart.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >
> >> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
> >>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >
> > vehicle.
> >
> >>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >
> > lubricate
> >
> >>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >
> > vehicle
> >
> >>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >
> >
> >
>

 

If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.

Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
the dealer to do it.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
> I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
> all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
> to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
> as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
> (I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
> spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
> the snow is way too fricken deep)
> Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
> passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
latch,
> > or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
but
> > the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
like
> > it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
unless
> > it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
lock
> > to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
getting
> > more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
door
> > apart.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
> >
> >> Use only the graphite made for locks.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
> >>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
> >
> > vehicle.
> >
> >>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
> >
> > lubricate
> >
> >>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
> >
> > vehicle
> >
> >>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >
> >
> >
>

 

Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
The temp just rose to +2C :-)

Earle Horton wrote:

> If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
> problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
> do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
> age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
> and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
> Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
> going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
> if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
>
> Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
> the dealer to do it.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
>
>>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
>>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
>>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
>>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
>>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
>>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
>>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
>>the snow is way too fricken deep)
>>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
>>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
>
> latch,
>
>>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
>
> but
>
>>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
>
> like
>
>>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
>
> unless
>
>>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
>
> lock
>
>>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
>
> getting
>
>>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
>
> door
>
>>>apart.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>>>
>>>vehicle.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>>>
>>>lubricate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>>>
>>>vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

 

Yea I went into my Dealer when it was giving me trouble at -21C
And the service rep barked at me because they were really busy.
They do have a heated bay were I parked and it unfroze
I may have to go back barking like a rabid dog
to get to the bottom of it, Plus it needs a oil change
anyway 'I can hear it now "We looked at it and it's working O.K"
The temp just rose to +2C :-)

Earle Horton wrote:

> If it is a "brand new" Jeep then it is a warranty issue. I haven't had the
> problem of anyone breaking into my stuff in seven years of living where I
> do. Sometimes I lock the Jeep or the Suburban, sometimes not. I credit the
> age of the vehicles, the perception that they will contain nothing of value,
> and the inherent honesty of the people who live in and frequent the San Juan
> Mountains. Many of the natives own firearms also, and one wouldn't think of
> going near their stuff. There is an unwritten code, that "I won't kill you
> if you respect what I own." Some of the natives even honor it.
>
> Try replacing that fifty cent part that Coasty mentioned. Maybe you can get
> the dealer to do it.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:heKdncNOlev4sVPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@magma.ca...
>
>>Being that it's a brand new Jeep. It is extremely frustrating.
>>I hate the thought of having to leave my Jeep unlocked with
>>all my stuff in it (toolbox etc) when I'm up at my Cottage
>>to go snowmobiling. I have to leave the Jeep in a very public area
>>as the road into my Cottage is not plowed in the winter.
>>(I know what some of you are thinking, but I'd rather go sledding than
>>spend all day trying to get the Jeep in. The Rubie just wouldn't make it
>>the snow is way too fricken deep)
>>Trying to get in the drivers seat with -80C winter boots from the
>>passenger side is like a Houdini maneuver I'm not that small :-)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>It's not in the lock cylinder, which is fine. It seems to be in the
>
> latch,
>
>>>or in the linkage to the internal latch release. The key lock turns,
>
> but
>
>>>the latch does not release and the internal latch release does not move
>
> like
>
>>>it should. From the inside of the vehicle, you can lock and unlock,
>
> unless
>
>>>it gets real cold. Then there is a lot of resistance moving from the
>
> lock
>
>>>to unlock position. This used to be temperature dependent, but is
>
> getting
>
>>>more and more common. Sooner or later, I will break down and take the
>
> door
>
>>>apart.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:43CD5E61.98BB7E1B@***.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Use only the graphite made for locks.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My '95 Wrangler has done this for the past three or four years. It is
>>>>>damned inconvenient, unlocking the passenger side to get into the
>>>
>>>vehicle.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sooner or later I am going to take the door apart and replace or
>>>
>>>lubricate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>whatever little gizmo is sticking in cold weather. Lucky for me the
>>>
>>>vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>>>is now old enough that thieves don't bother breaking into it, not that
>>>
>>>there
>>>
>>>
>>>>>are that many in Silverton, CO. Same symptoms exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>