Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
06-03-2006, 07:36 PM
#21
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
levels don't have these speaker problems?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected
>> to
>> RAP music?
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> --
> DougW
>
levels don't have these speaker problems?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HIogg.52451$9c6.46481@dukeread11...
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected
>> to
>> RAP music?
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> --
> DougW
>
06-03-2006, 07:36 PM
#22
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
levels don't have these speaker problems?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HIogg.52451$9c6.46481@dukeread11...
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected
>> to
>> RAP music?
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> --
> DougW
>
levels don't have these speaker problems?
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HIogg.52451$9c6.46481@dukeread11...
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected
>> to
>> RAP music?
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> --
> DougW
>
06-03-2006, 08:14 PM
#23
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
billy ray did pass the time by typing:
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
06-03-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
billy ray did pass the time by typing:
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
06-03-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
billy ray did pass the time by typing:
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
> So ... normal people.... err people who listen to normal music at reasonable
> levels don't have these speaker problems?
Depends. The lower frequencies heat up the tweeter. The power rating
for a tweeter is based on being crossed over at a specific frequency.
Generally you are correct. The goal in building a good audio system
is to prevent damage no matter what joe goober does to the audio level.
It's nice to play Snoopy and the Red Barron at a dB level that drowns
out the surround rap music. That or polka music. :] I'm evil.
Just so you know I'm not talking out my *** here. ^_^
I run a 300W system and used to compete in IASCA. It is impossible to blow
the speakers in my Jeep. Unless you have a tiny screwdriver to run the
amplifiers bias up. The whole system was designed to have near zero noise
playing a 0bit track and no distortion playing whitenoise at full volume.
Of course that's about 5grand in audio equipment. damn my hobbies! :/
http://revbeergoggles.com/Jeepstereo.html
the rest is down on this page.
http://revbeergoggles.com/zj.html
Installed in 1993, competed for seven years, several trophies and other
stuff. Never made the nationals as there are too many competitions required
to get the points. Only lost one speaker and that was due to age. One
of the MB Quart 160 speakers finally surrendered to foam breakdown. Cool
thing is that I contacted MB Quart and asked them if they still made
replacements. They actually wanted my old speaker for forensics since
it was top of the line when I first bought it. They cut me a deal for
below wholesale on a brand new set of their new reference line, with
crossovers. :D
Every now and then I think about just going nuts and building the ZJ
back to competition level. Something with a nice round 5000 watts and
watch the Jeep shake apart.
--
DougW
06-03-2006, 08:16 PM
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
DougW proclaimed:
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
06-03-2006, 08:16 PM
#27
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
DougW proclaimed:
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
06-03-2006, 08:16 PM
#28
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
DougW proclaimed:
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>
>>"These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>(the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>
>>The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>
>>
>>Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>RAP music?
>
>
> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
06-03-2006, 08:23 PM
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
Lon did pass the time by typing:
> DougW proclaimed:
>
>> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>>
>>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>> RAP music?
>>
>>
>> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
>> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
> fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
> very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
I almost mentioned the 1812 overture. :) Telarc produced a DDD version
with "Digital Cannon" Nice euphemism for "square wave."
--
DougW
> DougW proclaimed:
>
>> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>>
>>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>> RAP music?
>>
>>
>> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
>> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
> fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
> very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
I almost mentioned the 1812 overture. :) Telarc produced a DDD version
with "Digital Cannon" Nice euphemism for "square wave."
--
DougW
06-03-2006, 08:23 PM
#30
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Re: Front Tweeter for 2000 JGC ???
Lon did pass the time by typing:
> DougW proclaimed:
>
>> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>>
>>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>> RAP music?
>>
>>
>> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
>> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
> fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
> very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
I almost mentioned the 1812 overture. :) Telarc produced a DDD version
with "Digital Cannon" Nice euphemism for "square wave."
--
DougW
> DougW proclaimed:
>
>> billy ray did pass the time by typing:
>>
>>> "These HCD speakers come with an inline capacitor
>>> (the black canister shaped object) that cuts out harmful bass.
>>>
>>> The lack of one of these was what caused the early demise
>>> of your OEM Jeep Infinity Tweeters."
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that the speakers are most likely to fail when subjected to
>>> RAP music?
>>
>>
>> Yep. But actually heavy metal will nail a tweeter if you don't have
>> a good cap to cross out the lower frequencies.
>
> Classical music, particularly organ pedal, bassoon, bass violin. Even
> fancy liquid cooled tweeters like a Vifa are designed to handle only a
> very few watts in systems designed to handle hundreds of watts.
I almost mentioned the 1812 overture. :) Telarc produced a DDD version
with "Digital Cannon" Nice euphemism for "square wave."
--
DougW
