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Mike Romain 01-04-2006 10:20 AM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
I would be suspecting the flex hose to that wheel has collapsed
internally. This can hold the caliper 'on'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jolley wrote:
>
> I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
> the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
> reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
> wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
> up.
>
> To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
> drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
> right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
> with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>
> Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
> rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
> and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>
> One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
> the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
> alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)


Spdloader 01-04-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BBE7C4.CEA68D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be suspecting the flex hose to that wheel has collapsed
> internally. This can hold the caliper 'on'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jolley wrote:
>>
>> I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> up.
>>
>> To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>>
>> Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>>
>> One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)




Spdloader 01-04-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BBE7C4.CEA68D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be suspecting the flex hose to that wheel has collapsed
> internally. This can hold the caliper 'on'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jolley wrote:
>>
>> I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> up.
>>
>> To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>>
>> Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>>
>> One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)




Spdloader 01-04-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BBE7C4.CEA68D@sympatico.ca...
>I would be suspecting the flex hose to that wheel has collapsed
> internally. This can hold the caliper 'on'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jolley wrote:
>>
>> I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> up.
>>
>> To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>>
>> Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>>
>> One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)




Mike Romain 01-04-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....

If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
email?

That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.

I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Spdloader wrote:
>
> We discussed that too in a private email.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
> >>up.
> >>
> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
> >>
> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
> >>
> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)

> >
> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
> > is that only one side is sticking.
> > --
> > Old Crow
> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> > "There's only 1 RE"


Mike Romain 01-04-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....

If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
email?

That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.

I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Spdloader wrote:
>
> We discussed that too in a private email.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
> >>up.
> >>
> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
> >>
> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
> >>
> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)

> >
> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
> > is that only one side is sticking.
> > --
> > Old Crow
> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> > "There's only 1 RE"


Mike Romain 01-04-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....

If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
email?

That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.

I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Spdloader wrote:
>
> We discussed that too in a private email.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
> >>up.
> >>
> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
> >>
> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
> >>
> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)

> >
> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
> > is that only one side is sticking.
> > --
> > Old Crow
> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> > "There's only 1 RE"


Spdloader 01-04-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
Is everybody on a hair trigger in this newsgroup?

Turning the other cheek, I'll say this:

I invited him to contact me via private email because some folks are more
comfortable that way.

It wasn't my intent to torque anyone off, sorry if I did.

Spdloader


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC08B0.A34A0D98@sympatico.ca...
> That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....
>
> If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
> email?
>
> That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.
>
> I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> We discussed that too in a private email.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
>> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> >>up.
>> >>
>> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>> >>
>> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>> >>
>> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)
>> >
>> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
>> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
>> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
>> > is that only one side is sticking.
>> > --
>> > Old Crow
>> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
>> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
>> > "There's only 1 RE"




Spdloader 01-04-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
Is everybody on a hair trigger in this newsgroup?

Turning the other cheek, I'll say this:

I invited him to contact me via private email because some folks are more
comfortable that way.

It wasn't my intent to torque anyone off, sorry if I did.

Spdloader


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC08B0.A34A0D98@sympatico.ca...
> That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....
>
> If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
> email?
>
> That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.
>
> I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> We discussed that too in a private email.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
>> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> >>up.
>> >>
>> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>> >>
>> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>> >>
>> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)
>> >
>> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
>> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
>> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
>> > is that only one side is sticking.
>> > --
>> > Old Crow
>> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
>> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
>> > "There's only 1 RE"




Spdloader 01-04-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Front brakes dragging
 
Is everybody on a hair trigger in this newsgroup?

Turning the other cheek, I'll say this:

I invited him to contact me via private email because some folks are more
comfortable that way.

It wasn't my intent to torque anyone off, sorry if I did.

Spdloader


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC08B0.A34A0D98@sympatico.ca...
> That doesn't do the rest of us ----.....
>
> If someone wants help, what use is taking folks guesses to private
> email?
>
> That just causes a lot of repeats guesses and wasted time.
>
> I 'guess' he must have it fixed by now too?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> We discussed that too in a private email.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:kganr1h6mgpn4rrf5aq9abjqdi4361md1b@4ax.com...
>> > On 3 Jan 2006 17:04:27 -0800, "Jolley" <mormonator@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I was able to 'bleed' the proportioner valve. I lessened the bolt at
>> >>the end (with the hole in it) and took out the guts, cleaned and
>> >>reinstalled. Then I left the nut only partially screwed in and had
>> >>wifey pump the brakes to get the air out and then I tightened the bolt
>> >>up.
>> >>
>> >>To my Joy, the brake light is now off! Unfortunately the brake still
>> >>drags. I jacked each front wheel up and found that really only the
>> >>right side is dragging and the left feels about what I would expect
>> >>with new brakes... I'm beginning to suspect a bad caliper/piston.
>> >>
>> >>Using a C clamp I can press the caliper open just a little more and the
>> >>rotor will spin reasonably well, but by the time I replace the MC cover
>> >>and put the wheel back on its dragging heavily again.
>> >>
>> >>One last thought: could the new brakes be just a little too thick? With
>> >>the tire on I loosened the caliper bolts slightly and the drag was
>> >>alleviated. (Its a thought anyway)
>> >
>> > First thing I'd look at is the flex hose to the sticking caliper. They
>> > can come apart inside and hold pressure on the caliper. Surprised this
>> > thread went this long with nobody suggesting that, but the real clue
>> > is that only one side is sticking.
>> > --
>> > Old Crow
>> > '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>> > '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
>> > BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
>> > "There's only 1 RE"





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