Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That duct is supposed to have a curve in it that allows the radio to fit.
They formerly made that ducts from a paper based material, the replacement
duct is plastic. The radio will fit. OK, my radio fits ...




"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
will
> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I looked
> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
> examination was not conclusive.
>
> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
connection
> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the dash.
>
> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the grill
> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
off
> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
chance.
>
> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
duct
> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
(looking
> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>
> Chip
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That duct is supposed to have a curve in it that allows the radio to fit.
They formerly made that ducts from a paper based material, the replacement
duct is plastic. The radio will fit. OK, my radio fits ...




"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
will
> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I looked
> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
> examination was not conclusive.
>
> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
connection
> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the dash.
>
> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the grill
> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
off
> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
chance.
>
> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
duct
> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
(looking
> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>
> Chip
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That duct is supposed to have a curve in it that allows the radio to fit.
They formerly made that ducts from a paper based material, the replacement
duct is plastic. The radio will fit. OK, my radio fits ...




"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
will
> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I looked
> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
> examination was not conclusive.
>
> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
connection
> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the dash.
>
> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the grill
> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
off
> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
chance.
>
> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
duct
> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
(looking
> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>
> Chip
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

Bill says to push the duct out of the way.



"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MADdd.5011$5v2.3561@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
server
> says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
answer
> to my problem on it)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
> >will not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
> >looked at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle.
> >The examination was not conclusive.
> >
> > The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
> > connection that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill
> > on the dash.
> >
> > On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
grill
> > that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
> > off that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4
> > inches away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not
a
> > chance.
> >
> > I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
> > duct from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
> > (looking at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

Bill says to push the duct out of the way.



"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MADdd.5011$5v2.3561@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
server
> says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
answer
> to my problem on it)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
> >will not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
> >looked at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle.
> >The examination was not conclusive.
> >
> > The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
> > connection that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill
> > on the dash.
> >
> > On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
grill
> > that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
> > off that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4
> > inches away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not
a
> > chance.
> >
> > I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
> > duct from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
> > (looking at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

Bill says to push the duct out of the way.



"Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MADdd.5011$5v2.3561@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
server
> says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
answer
> to my problem on it)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:iQBdd.12832$xf6.4487@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
> >will not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
> >looked at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle.
> >The examination was not conclusive.
> >
> > The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
> > connection that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill
> > on the dash.
> >
> > On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
grill
> > that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
> > off that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4
> > inches away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not
a
> > chance.
> >
> > I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
> > duct from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
> > (looking at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That's not quite it. The duct comes down from the hood grille, it is rigid
plastic until right above the radio cavity. There's no way to push it out
of the way.

Another thought on the subject: The vent control on the dash has 3
positions on it. Off - heat - vent, the only problem is that the contol
will not pull out to the third position. I traced the cable to the actual
gate and discovered that is does not have the necessary hardware on it to
move in three positions. It's just not there at all. I compared it to my
dad's '84 to see what else was supposed to be down there. Granted, the 84
is different. I looked in the repair manual and it has nothing on the vent
system for various model years. Actually, nothing at all. This made me
wonder if the 76 controls had the vent capability (I believe it should) or
if the installed heating assembly that includes the vent is the incorrect
one? It's looks like there are incompatible pieces in there. - the contol
is wrong, the housing and hose is in the way of the radio..... just doesn't
add up.

Chip

I'll take a few digital pictures (soon) and provide a link so you can see
what I'm looking at.



<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:vj8en0ldvccgcbrn3tg8ue9u16m7ecfujl@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:41:16 GMT, "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
>>server
>>says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
>>answer
>>to my problem on it)
>
> Hi Chip,
> Have you tried just pushing it out of the way? Probably that's
> how
> it got there, someone pushed there to get something else.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Chip wrote:
>>
>> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
>> will
>> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
>> looked
>> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
>> examination was not conclusive.
>>
>> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
>> connection
>> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the
>> dash.
>>
>> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
>> grill
>> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
>> off
>> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
>> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
>> chance.
>>
>> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
>> duct
>> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
>> (looking
>> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>>
>> Chip

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That's not quite it. The duct comes down from the hood grille, it is rigid
plastic until right above the radio cavity. There's no way to push it out
of the way.

Another thought on the subject: The vent control on the dash has 3
positions on it. Off - heat - vent, the only problem is that the contol
will not pull out to the third position. I traced the cable to the actual
gate and discovered that is does not have the necessary hardware on it to
move in three positions. It's just not there at all. I compared it to my
dad's '84 to see what else was supposed to be down there. Granted, the 84
is different. I looked in the repair manual and it has nothing on the vent
system for various model years. Actually, nothing at all. This made me
wonder if the 76 controls had the vent capability (I believe it should) or
if the installed heating assembly that includes the vent is the incorrect
one? It's looks like there are incompatible pieces in there. - the contol
is wrong, the housing and hose is in the way of the radio..... just doesn't
add up.

Chip

I'll take a few digital pictures (soon) and provide a link so you can see
what I'm looking at.



<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:vj8en0ldvccgcbrn3tg8ue9u16m7ecfujl@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:41:16 GMT, "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
>>server
>>says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
>>answer
>>to my problem on it)
>
> Hi Chip,
> Have you tried just pushing it out of the way? Probably that's
> how
> it got there, someone pushed there to get something else.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Chip wrote:
>>
>> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
>> will
>> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
>> looked
>> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
>> examination was not conclusive.
>>
>> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
>> connection
>> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the
>> dash.
>>
>> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
>> grill
>> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
>> off
>> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
>> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
>> chance.
>>
>> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
>> duct
>> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
>> (looking
>> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>>
>> Chip

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

That's not quite it. The duct comes down from the hood grille, it is rigid
plastic until right above the radio cavity. There's no way to push it out
of the way.

Another thought on the subject: The vent control on the dash has 3
positions on it. Off - heat - vent, the only problem is that the contol
will not pull out to the third position. I traced the cable to the actual
gate and discovered that is does not have the necessary hardware on it to
move in three positions. It's just not there at all. I compared it to my
dad's '84 to see what else was supposed to be down there. Granted, the 84
is different. I looked in the repair manual and it has nothing on the vent
system for various model years. Actually, nothing at all. This made me
wonder if the 76 controls had the vent capability (I believe it should) or
if the installed heating assembly that includes the vent is the incorrect
one? It's looks like there are incompatible pieces in there. - the contol
is wrong, the housing and hose is in the way of the radio..... just doesn't
add up.

Chip

I'll take a few digital pictures (soon) and provide a link so you can see
what I'm looking at.



<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:vj8en0ldvccgcbrn3tg8ue9u16m7ecfujl@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:41:16 GMT, "Chip" <cjenkins1@nospam.neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Can someone copy bill's response to this one and repost it? My news
>>server
>>says that Bill's message is not long available. (It probably has the
>>answer
>>to my problem on it)
>
> Hi Chip,
> Have you tried just pushing it out of the way? Probably that's
> how
> it got there, someone pushed there to get something else.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Chip wrote:
>>
>> I figure that bill has a link on this one. Here's the deal. The radio
>> will
>> not fit because there is a duct or hose or something in the way. I
>> looked
>> at the pictures in the Haynes manual and I examined the vehicle. The
>> examination was not conclusive.
>>
>> The pictures in the manual showed that the 'hose' goes down to a
>> connection
>> that is near the floor and it passes behind the speaker grill on the
>> dash.
>>
>> On the jeep, the duct appears to be correct from looking through the
>> grill
>> that is behind the hood on the front the the jeep, but the "hose" comes
>> off
>> that duct and it goes right behind the radio cutout. it's about 4 inches
>> away from the front. No way is it enough room for the radio, not a
>> chance.
>>
>> I'm just thinking that they (whoever 'they' are) installed a transition
>> duct
>> from the wrong model year and the transition is too far to the left
>> (looking
>> at it from the driver's seat) about 8" too far to the left.
>>
>> Chip

Re: Fresh air duct 1976 CJ - Help Bill!
 

Chip did pass the time by typing:
> That's not quite it. The duct comes down from the hood grille, it is rigid
> plastic until right above the radio cavity. There's no way to push it out
> of the way.

A lot is possible with the proper application of a heat gun.
(or plastique)

--
DougW