frame question.
10-18-2004, 10:05 PM
#41
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Re: frame question.
Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> > News==----
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> >>100,000 Newsgroups
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> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
10-18-2004, 10:05 PM
#42
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Re: frame question.
Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> > News==----
> >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >>100,000 Newsgroups
> >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> > News==----
> >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >>100,000 Newsgroups
> >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
10-18-2004, 10:05 PM
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: frame question.
Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> > News==----
> >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >>100,000 Newsgroups
> >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:SLCcd.18001$bk1.16668@fed1read05...
> Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. .
> > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real
change
> > to
> > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track
axles
> > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of
things.
> >
> >
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com...
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way
> >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the
model
> >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar
> >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted
to
> >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were
eventually
> >> tied to the frame or not.
> >>
> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7.
> >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to
> >> be
> >> wider and uses different springs.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems no one knows????
> >> >
> >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make
them
> >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?)
> >> >
> >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large
> > boneyard
> >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a
> > frame for
> >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question,
what
> > year
> >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a
wagoneer
> > and
> >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can
> > (sorry
> >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads
> > around
> >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one)
> >> >>
> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> > News==----
> >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >>100,000 Newsgroups
> >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
> >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a
> >> real
> >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
> >
> >
>
>
10-18-2004, 11:27 PM
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Re: frame question.
Real Jeeps used open Frames like the new Kenworths:
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
10-18-2004, 11:27 PM
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Re: frame question.
Real Jeeps used open Frames like the new Kenworths:
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
10-18-2004, 11:27 PM
#46
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Re: frame question.
Real Jeeps used open Frames like the new Kenworths:
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
http://www.trucksystem.com/inventory...asp?ID=1388159 and all
road tractors: http://www.goodmantruck.com/N9337%204200.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Yes, but that happened in 76. Prior to they were open frames, but I thought
> the question was design changes between 76 - 86?
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