Followup question about rolling
11-03-2003, 05:14 PM
#21
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Re: Followup question about rolling
Another top heavy TJ falls over:
http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Get a full 6-point roll cage, for one. You will want frame gussets welded on
> to bolt the cage to in the driver and passenger footwells.
>
> DO NOT get those cute little velcro hand hold things that go on the roll
> bars. If the passenger is holding onto them during a roll over, they will
> suffer serious injury to their hand. You should hold the steering wheel, and
> your passenger should hold the grab handle over the glove box door. Mashing
> a dent into the floor with the brake pedal is something you have to play by
> ear. The death grip on the steering wheel/grab handle is a requirement,
> mashing the brake is probably a good plan, but not helpful - depending upon
> the direction of the roll over. Mashing the brake at the exact wrong time
> can actually be the cause of a roll over that would otherwise not have
> occurred. But, it is a considerably different thing to be sitting in a pile
> of ---- (literally your own) and watching the planet turn upsidedown, and
> standing at the bottom of the hill wondering why the idiot is using the
> brakes at that particular moment.
http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Get a full 6-point roll cage, for one. You will want frame gussets welded on
> to bolt the cage to in the driver and passenger footwells.
>
> DO NOT get those cute little velcro hand hold things that go on the roll
> bars. If the passenger is holding onto them during a roll over, they will
> suffer serious injury to their hand. You should hold the steering wheel, and
> your passenger should hold the grab handle over the glove box door. Mashing
> a dent into the floor with the brake pedal is something you have to play by
> ear. The death grip on the steering wheel/grab handle is a requirement,
> mashing the brake is probably a good plan, but not helpful - depending upon
> the direction of the roll over. Mashing the brake at the exact wrong time
> can actually be the cause of a roll over that would otherwise not have
> occurred. But, it is a considerably different thing to be sitting in a pile
> of ---- (literally your own) and watching the planet turn upsidedown, and
> standing at the bottom of the hill wondering why the idiot is using the
> brakes at that particular moment.
11-03-2003, 05:14 PM
#22
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Re: Followup question about rolling
Another top heavy TJ falls over:
http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Get a full 6-point roll cage, for one. You will want frame gussets welded on
> to bolt the cage to in the driver and passenger footwells.
>
> DO NOT get those cute little velcro hand hold things that go on the roll
> bars. If the passenger is holding onto them during a roll over, they will
> suffer serious injury to their hand. You should hold the steering wheel, and
> your passenger should hold the grab handle over the glove box door. Mashing
> a dent into the floor with the brake pedal is something you have to play by
> ear. The death grip on the steering wheel/grab handle is a requirement,
> mashing the brake is probably a good plan, but not helpful - depending upon
> the direction of the roll over. Mashing the brake at the exact wrong time
> can actually be the cause of a roll over that would otherwise not have
> occurred. But, it is a considerably different thing to be sitting in a pile
> of ---- (literally your own) and watching the planet turn upsidedown, and
> standing at the bottom of the hill wondering why the idiot is using the
> brakes at that particular moment.
http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Get a full 6-point roll cage, for one. You will want frame gussets welded on
> to bolt the cage to in the driver and passenger footwells.
>
> DO NOT get those cute little velcro hand hold things that go on the roll
> bars. If the passenger is holding onto them during a roll over, they will
> suffer serious injury to their hand. You should hold the steering wheel, and
> your passenger should hold the grab handle over the glove box door. Mashing
> a dent into the floor with the brake pedal is something you have to play by
> ear. The death grip on the steering wheel/grab handle is a requirement,
> mashing the brake is probably a good plan, but not helpful - depending upon
> the direction of the roll over. Mashing the brake at the exact wrong time
> can actually be the cause of a roll over that would otherwise not have
> occurred. But, it is a considerably different thing to be sitting in a pile
> of ---- (literally your own) and watching the planet turn upsidedown, and
> standing at the bottom of the hill wondering why the idiot is using the
> brakes at that particular moment.
11-03-2003, 05:25 PM
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Re: Followup question about rolling
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Another top heavy TJ falls over:
> http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
Chair guiding the ship.
11-03-2003, 05:25 PM
#24
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Re: Followup question about rolling
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA6D338.E8CAFA62@***.net...
> Another top heavy TJ falls over:
> http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
Chair guiding the ship.
11-03-2003, 05:25 PM
#25
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Re: Followup question about rolling
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA6D338.E8CAFA62@***.net...
> Another top heavy TJ falls over:
> http://www.----------.com/jeeproll.mpg
If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
Chair guiding the ship.
11-03-2003, 05:28 PM
#26
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Re: Followup question about rolling
Top Fuelers use hand restraints.
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Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
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Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
11-03-2003, 05:28 PM
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Re: Followup question about rolling
Top Fuelers use hand restraints.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
11-03-2003, 05:28 PM
#28
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Re: Followup question about rolling
Top Fuelers use hand restraints.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Red Racer wrote:
>
> Travis,
>
> Having "been on my head" a few times in everything from race cars to sand
> rails (never in my Jeep however), the number one thing you must do is keep
> your arms and hands from going outside the boundaries of the roll cage. This
> isn't easy to do, but luckily in a Jeep you will most likely be going very
> slow when this happens, so you have some time to think about it. A death
> grip on the steering wheel is a good idea, but at least 4 point harnesses
> with arm retraints makes this a no brainer. Not the most comfortable set up
> for a fun day of wheeling, but works very well.
>
> RR
11-03-2003, 05:42 PM
#29
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Re: Followup question about rolling
How true.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
>
> It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
> been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
> Chair guiding the ship.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
>
> It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
> been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
> Chair guiding the ship.
11-03-2003, 05:42 PM
#30
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Re: Followup question about rolling
How true.
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
>
> It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
> been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
> Chair guiding the ship.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> If he hadn't been on the brakes, he would not have rolled over.
>
> It is easy to sit here and watch the video, and say that he should not have
> been on the brakes, but it is much different when sitting in the Captain's
> Chair guiding the ship.