Finally fixing it
05-29-2004, 07:17 PM
#41
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Re: Finally fixing it
I got the "ultra" so I'm good there. At this point I want to run it
stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
Mike Romain wrote:
> Are you still running with the computer in the loop?
>
> 99% of the vacuum lines can be tossed when the computer is gone.
>
> It still can pass emissions with low numbers if tuned correctly. You
> either learn how or find an old time mechanic that remembers how to set
> up a carb. It's not hard to learn.
>
> Oh, I like acetone for the final clean before the RTV. You also have to
> have the 'ultra' if permatex RTV. This is called 'sensor safe' RTV
> Silicone.
>
> Regular silicone will instantly kill your O2 sensor, no matter where you
> use it on the vehicle. If the computer is gone with the nutter bypass,
> then no worries and you can use the cheap silicone.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>I got it off. Went to sears and got a 1/4" socket set. Tonight I get
>>to remove old RTV. There was no gasket used the last time. And BTW,
>>what a PITA this has been!!! There are vacuum hoses, tubes, wires and
>>just about anything else you can think of that runs across the top of
>>the valve cover. Took me forever just to dig down to the damn thing and
>>label stuff. The good thing is that I've identified a bunch of brittle
>>tubes/hoses that I have good access to!
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have 'Really' long arms and hands (6'6" from finger tip to finger tip)
>>>and am used to working by feel. Folks are always offering me lights and
>>>stuff, and I say, well, 'I' can't see my hands, so what good will a
>>>light do me...
>>>
>>>Do you have a lowered t-case or something like that? That will for sure
>>>mess up the space.
>>>
>>>If you are really desperate, you could remove one front engine mount
>>>with a jack under the oil pan and drop the front of the engine down
>>>some. That might open up the space for you.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"I have long fingers and can get a box end wrench on that bolt. It's a
>>>> bugger for sure."
>>>>Good lord. I can barely feel the bolt and you can get a wrench on it???
>>>> I'll try 1/4"...
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You might get a bit of space if you jack up on the t-case tail.
>>>>>
>>>>>Otherwise a small 1/4" drive socket with a universal joint will get it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have long fingers and can get a box end wrench on that bolt. It's a
>>>>>bugger for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, how do I get at the bolt that is closest to the firewall? I can't
>>>>>>get a wrench or socket onto it (too close to firewall). Is there some
>>>>>>sort of trick to it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>>>
stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
Mike Romain wrote:
> Are you still running with the computer in the loop?
>
> 99% of the vacuum lines can be tossed when the computer is gone.
>
> It still can pass emissions with low numbers if tuned correctly. You
> either learn how or find an old time mechanic that remembers how to set
> up a carb. It's not hard to learn.
>
> Oh, I like acetone for the final clean before the RTV. You also have to
> have the 'ultra' if permatex RTV. This is called 'sensor safe' RTV
> Silicone.
>
> Regular silicone will instantly kill your O2 sensor, no matter where you
> use it on the vehicle. If the computer is gone with the nutter bypass,
> then no worries and you can use the cheap silicone.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>I got it off. Went to sears and got a 1/4" socket set. Tonight I get
>>to remove old RTV. There was no gasket used the last time. And BTW,
>>what a PITA this has been!!! There are vacuum hoses, tubes, wires and
>>just about anything else you can think of that runs across the top of
>>the valve cover. Took me forever just to dig down to the damn thing and
>>label stuff. The good thing is that I've identified a bunch of brittle
>>tubes/hoses that I have good access to!
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have 'Really' long arms and hands (6'6" from finger tip to finger tip)
>>>and am used to working by feel. Folks are always offering me lights and
>>>stuff, and I say, well, 'I' can't see my hands, so what good will a
>>>light do me...
>>>
>>>Do you have a lowered t-case or something like that? That will for sure
>>>mess up the space.
>>>
>>>If you are really desperate, you could remove one front engine mount
>>>with a jack under the oil pan and drop the front of the engine down
>>>some. That might open up the space for you.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"I have long fingers and can get a box end wrench on that bolt. It's a
>>>> bugger for sure."
>>>>Good lord. I can barely feel the bolt and you can get a wrench on it???
>>>> I'll try 1/4"...
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You might get a bit of space if you jack up on the t-case tail.
>>>>>
>>>>>Otherwise a small 1/4" drive socket with a universal joint will get it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have long fingers and can get a box end wrench on that bolt. It's a
>>>>>bugger for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, how do I get at the bolt that is closest to the firewall? I can't
>>>>>>get a wrench or socket onto it (too close to firewall). Is there some
>>>>>>sort of trick to it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>>>
05-29-2004, 09:03 PM
#42
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Re: Finally fixing it
"Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I got the "ultra" so I'm good there. At this point I want to run it
> stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
> carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
> cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
> tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
Chris
05-29-2004, 09:03 PM
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Re: Finally fixing it
"Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I got the "ultra" so I'm good there. At this point I want to run it
> stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
> carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
> cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
> tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
Chris
05-29-2004, 09:03 PM
#44
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Re: Finally fixing it
"Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I got the "ultra" so I'm good there. At this point I want to run it
> stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
> carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
> cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
> tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
Chris
05-29-2004, 09:03 PM
#45
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Re: Finally fixing it
"Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%R8uc.30333$zO3.168@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I got the "ultra" so I'm good there. At this point I want to run it
> stock(ish) so no nutter right now (The only real issue I have with the
> carb would not be fixed by the nutter). Thanks for all your help. I'm
> cleaning the valve cover (plastic) tonight and then I re-assemble
> tomorrow. I have about a 2 hour window while my kid naps :-).
You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
Chris
05-29-2004, 09:18 PM
#46
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Re: Finally fixing it
And faster!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
05-29-2004, 09:18 PM
#47
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Re: Finally fixing it
And faster!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
05-29-2004, 09:18 PM
#48
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Re: Finally fixing it
And faster!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
05-29-2004, 09:18 PM
#49
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Re: Finally fixing it
And faster!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>
> Chris
05-29-2004, 09:27 PM
#50
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Re: Finally fixing it
I thought it stopped leaks and was quieter... If I knew it made the jeep
faster I would have gotten one!!! How many HP does it add?? LOL
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> And faster!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
>
>>You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>>
>>Chris
faster I would have gotten one!!! How many HP does it add?? LOL
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> And faster!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
>
>>You do know that an aluminum cover looks better and runs cleaner, right? ;-)
>>
>>Chris