fantastic advice...
11-20-2006, 06:54 PM
#31
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Re: fantastic advice...
for six grand you should be able to get a low mileage 2001 xj or newer
wrangler
"nightrider.36" wrote:
> Ok, I went to the Anza Borrego desert in a borrowed Ford Explorer and
> found some wind caves. Intense to say the least. The trail out there
> was mostly bumpy and a 2wd truck with good clearance would have done
> fine. It's first time I've done that sort of thing and had an absolute
> blast!!! Now I want a jeep more than anything...
>
> So I found a 1995 Jeep Wrangler SE 4WD with 111,163 miles and the
> dealer wants $6k for it. KBB says it's worth a little over $5k in
> excellent condition which I don't think it's in. There is some rust on
> the roof of the driver's side and I don't really care about that so
> much, I think I can fix that. But I am concerned about the wear and
> tear on the drive-train and the engine since 1995.
>
> Although everyone says you should go out there with buddies, I know I
> won't because to me, that seems to defeat the purpose of getting a jeep
> to get away from everything--including commitments and the dependency
> on others' schedules. I'm not looking for a new club to join--I
> basically want to get away from everyone, meetings, associations--my
> wife and kids are the exception--on the weekends.
>
> So when I break down out there in the middle of nowhere in a 1995 used
> jeep and don't much about their repairs, how am I going to get it
> fixed? What solutions do you folks recommend? The park ranger told me,
> "If you've never been out there on a jeep, get a yellow or orange one
> so we can find you when you get stuck..."** chuckle**.... he was a
> comedian I guess, but I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
> Novices going out there and getting into situations that they're not
> used to. I don't want to do any hard-core rock climbing because I
> really don't know how.
>
> So what do you folks think of that 1995 jeep? what should I look for?
>
> Thanks for you advice so far, you've been great.
>
> -Alex
wrangler
"nightrider.36" wrote:
> Ok, I went to the Anza Borrego desert in a borrowed Ford Explorer and
> found some wind caves. Intense to say the least. The trail out there
> was mostly bumpy and a 2wd truck with good clearance would have done
> fine. It's first time I've done that sort of thing and had an absolute
> blast!!! Now I want a jeep more than anything...
>
> So I found a 1995 Jeep Wrangler SE 4WD with 111,163 miles and the
> dealer wants $6k for it. KBB says it's worth a little over $5k in
> excellent condition which I don't think it's in. There is some rust on
> the roof of the driver's side and I don't really care about that so
> much, I think I can fix that. But I am concerned about the wear and
> tear on the drive-train and the engine since 1995.
>
> Although everyone says you should go out there with buddies, I know I
> won't because to me, that seems to defeat the purpose of getting a jeep
> to get away from everything--including commitments and the dependency
> on others' schedules. I'm not looking for a new club to join--I
> basically want to get away from everyone, meetings, associations--my
> wife and kids are the exception--on the weekends.
>
> So when I break down out there in the middle of nowhere in a 1995 used
> jeep and don't much about their repairs, how am I going to get it
> fixed? What solutions do you folks recommend? The park ranger told me,
> "If you've never been out there on a jeep, get a yellow or orange one
> so we can find you when you get stuck..."** chuckle**.... he was a
> comedian I guess, but I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
> Novices going out there and getting into situations that they're not
> used to. I don't want to do any hard-core rock climbing because I
> really don't know how.
>
> So what do you folks think of that 1995 jeep? what should I look for?
>
> Thanks for you advice so far, you've been great.
>
> -Alex
11-20-2006, 07:15 PM
#32
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Re: fantastic advice...
95 YJ's (square headlight wranglers) often go for around $3800 to 4
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
11-20-2006, 07:15 PM
#33
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Re: fantastic advice...
95 YJ's (square headlight wranglers) often go for around $3800 to 4
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
11-20-2006, 07:15 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: fantastic advice...
95 YJ's (square headlight wranglers) often go for around $3800 to 4
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
grand on Ebay regularly, in good condition with a 6 cylinder and
sometimes even lifted with larger tires...
Usually lifted Wranglers with good paint and no mechanical probs command
higher prices on Ebay. Relative to just about any other vehicle, USUALLY
Ebay is a bargain hunters dream, but with Wranglers the demand seems to
outstrip the sellers.
1) if the Jeep you're looking at is a 4 banger then it's dramatically
less valuable than the 5 grand he's asking. try 3 grand... Unless:
2) it's lifted and has big tires, in which case even if it's a 4 cyl
there are plenty of takers out there that will buy it around the guys
asking price.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
11-20-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: fantastic advice...
I think Philthy's a little optimistic for the region....
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
11-20-2006, 07:23 PM
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: fantastic advice...
I think Philthy's a little optimistic for the region....
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
11-20-2006, 07:23 PM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: fantastic advice...
I think Philthy's a little optimistic for the region....
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
If you don't mind me saying so, I think you should carefully examine
exactly what you get for $4200 at a used-car dealer. I, too, was
searching for a Wrangler....any reasonably priced one....in Southern
California, where used up Jeeps are as inflated in price as the real
estate it's parked on. For a '95, which I'm sure is a fine machine, is
the dealer is giving you anything more than parts and labor for 30
days? drivetrain only? Or is he selling a warranty ...? I'm only
asking to see what the advantage is over a well maintained private
sale....I personally didn't find much to cover the grand or two
difference.
Granted, I'm optimistic myself and a former professional, but for the
exact same kind of money, I dug up and purchased a well equipped but
"reconstructed" TJ that had never left the asphalt. I'm not saying
anyone else should gamble on a reconstructed title, but it did show me
that even late-YJs are riding a bubble that departs from depreciation
and follows enthusiasm. My researched showed a steady $4500 for bare
bones TJs, bidding starts at $6K even for slightly better equipped
early TJs.....maybe someone can shed some light on why .36 should stay
in the YJ model.
