nightrider.36

Earle Horton wrote:
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.

You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.

He had it listed originally at $7k.

-jac

nightrider.36

Earle Horton wrote:
> A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These bodies
> are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and the
> frame can rust too.

You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.

He had it listed originally at $7k.

-jac

Earle Horton

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These
bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and
the
> > frame can rust too.
>
> You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
> he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
> optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
> Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
> kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
> I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.
>
> He had it listed originally at $7k.
>
Well you can't blame these guys for trying. There are a lot of first time
sucker buyers out there. ;^)

Earle



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Earle Horton

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164058885.220269.13200@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These
bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and
the
> > frame can rust too.
>
> You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
> he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
> optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
> Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
> kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
> I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.
>
> He had it listed originally at $7k.
>
Well you can't blame these guys for trying. There are a lot of first time
sucker buyers out there. ;^)

Earle



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Earle Horton

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164058885.220269.13200@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > A "dinged up, used car" certainly does not qualify for KBB "excellent"
> > pricing. Make sure to point this out to the sales people. If they are
> > pricing the vehicle as "excellent" then it better look new. These
bodies
> > are galvanized, but a scratch can leave them vulnerable to rusting, and
the
> > frame can rust too.
>
> You're right Earl. This dealer doesn't have it listed as excellent but
> he's pricing it as such. I see it as "good" and even that's being
> optimistic. I'm going to offer him $4200 cash take it or leave it
> Mostly because I'm going to drop another $1500 on it to get it back to
> kbb excellent condition. I can do some body-work and paint myself but
> I need a lot of help with the drive-train stuff.
>
> He had it listed originally at $7k.
>
Well you can't blame these guys for trying. There are a lot of first time
sucker buyers out there. ;^)

Earle



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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Good idea, but I've taken my turkey to the desert over twenty
times, it's sometimes worth the danger just to see how crazy everyone
gets. The week after the holidays is when most of the law enforcement
goes out after having to work.
Searched the internet for: "anza borrego" "pinyon mountain" "Fish
Creek" and "Split Mountain" for the mud cave like this:
http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaborregoMudCave.jpg which I thought
was fun on the was down into Split Mountain:
http://www.hiddensandiego.com/previe...o_tapiado.html it's off of
"Arroyo Seco Del Diablo" or "Arroyo Tapiado" That you will find on this
map: http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaBorrego.pdf that blows up to be
very detailed. Also some sites to look at that I thought were fun about
Pinyon Mountain ride from Scissors Crossing:
http://www.4x4now.com/sf0796.htm and
http://www.sd4wheel.com/Past_Events/STPATMAR02.htm Which will separate
the Jeeps from the wannabees.
Have a first aid kit, and some other suggestions:
http://www.4x4now.com/4whtbcr.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"nightrider.36" wrote:
>
> Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
> there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
> going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
>
> Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
>
> alex

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Good idea, but I've taken my turkey to the desert over twenty
times, it's sometimes worth the danger just to see how crazy everyone
gets. The week after the holidays is when most of the law enforcement
goes out after having to work.
Searched the internet for: "anza borrego" "pinyon mountain" "Fish
Creek" and "Split Mountain" for the mud cave like this:
http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaborregoMudCave.jpg which I thought
was fun on the was down into Split Mountain:
http://www.hiddensandiego.com/previe...o_tapiado.html it's off of
"Arroyo Seco Del Diablo" or "Arroyo Tapiado" That you will find on this
map: http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaBorrego.pdf that blows up to be
very detailed. Also some sites to look at that I thought were fun about
Pinyon Mountain ride from Scissors Crossing:
http://www.4x4now.com/sf0796.htm and
http://www.sd4wheel.com/Past_Events/STPATMAR02.htm Which will separate
the Jeeps from the wannabees.
Have a first aid kit, and some other suggestions:
http://www.4x4now.com/4whtbcr.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"nightrider.36" wrote:
>
> Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
> there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
> going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
>
> Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
>
> alex

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Good idea, but I've taken my turkey to the desert over twenty
times, it's sometimes worth the danger just to see how crazy everyone
gets. The week after the holidays is when most of the law enforcement
goes out after having to work.
Searched the internet for: "anza borrego" "pinyon mountain" "Fish
Creek" and "Split Mountain" for the mud cave like this:
http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaborregoMudCave.jpg which I thought
was fun on the was down into Split Mountain:
http://www.hiddensandiego.com/previe...o_tapiado.html it's off of
"Arroyo Seco Del Diablo" or "Arroyo Tapiado" That you will find on this
map: http://www.----------.com/temp/anzaBorrego.pdf that blows up to be
very detailed. Also some sites to look at that I thought were fun about
Pinyon Mountain ride from Scissors Crossing:
http://www.4x4now.com/sf0796.htm and
http://www.sd4wheel.com/Past_Events/STPATMAR02.htm Which will separate
the Jeeps from the wannabees.
Have a first aid kit, and some other suggestions:
http://www.4x4now.com/4whtbcr.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"nightrider.36" wrote:
>
> Bill, I was just out there this weekend and was thinking of camping out
> there again after the t-giving holiday is over. I'm thinking that it's
> going to be somewhat crowded out there this weekend. What do you think?
>
> Feel free to email me at alex.cordero@gmail.com for off-topic answers.
>
> alex

philthy

for six grand you should be able to get a low mileage 2001 xj or newer
wrangler

"nightrider.36" wrote:

> Ok, I went to the Anza Borrego desert in a borrowed Ford Explorer and
> found some wind caves. Intense to say the least. The trail out there
> was mostly bumpy and a 2wd truck with good clearance would have done
> fine. It's first time I've done that sort of thing and had an absolute
> blast!!! Now I want a jeep more than anything...
>
> So I found a 1995 Jeep Wrangler SE 4WD with 111,163 miles and the
> dealer wants $6k for it. KBB says it's worth a little over $5k in
> excellent condition which I don't think it's in. There is some rust on
> the roof of the driver's side and I don't really care about that so
> much, I think I can fix that. But I am concerned about the wear and
> tear on the drive-train and the engine since 1995.
>
> Although everyone says you should go out there with buddies, I know I
> won't because to me, that seems to defeat the purpose of getting a jeep
> to get away from everything--including commitments and the dependency
> on others' schedules. I'm not looking for a new club to join--I
> basically want to get away from everyone, meetings, associations--my
> wife and kids are the exception--on the weekends.
>
> So when I break down out there in the middle of nowhere in a 1995 used
> jeep and don't much about their repairs, how am I going to get it
> fixed? What solutions do you folks recommend? The park ranger told me,
> "If you've never been out there on a jeep, get a yellow or orange one
> so we can find you when you get stuck..."** chuckle**.... he was a
> comedian I guess, but I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
> Novices going out there and getting into situations that they're not
> used to. I don't want to do any hard-core rock climbing because I
> really don't know how.
>
> So what do you folks think of that 1995 jeep? what should I look for?
>
> Thanks for you advice so far, you've been great.
>
> -Alex

philthy

for six grand you should be able to get a low mileage 2001 xj or newer
wrangler

"nightrider.36" wrote:

> Ok, I went to the Anza Borrego desert in a borrowed Ford Explorer and
> found some wind caves. Intense to say the least. The trail out there
> was mostly bumpy and a 2wd truck with good clearance would have done
> fine. It's first time I've done that sort of thing and had an absolute
> blast!!! Now I want a jeep more than anything...
>
> So I found a 1995 Jeep Wrangler SE 4WD with 111,163 miles and the
> dealer wants $6k for it. KBB says it's worth a little over $5k in
> excellent condition which I don't think it's in. There is some rust on
> the roof of the driver's side and I don't really care about that so
> much, I think I can fix that. But I am concerned about the wear and
> tear on the drive-train and the engine since 1995.
>
> Although everyone says you should go out there with buddies, I know I
> won't because to me, that seems to defeat the purpose of getting a jeep
> to get away from everything--including commitments and the dependency
> on others' schedules. I'm not looking for a new club to join--I
> basically want to get away from everyone, meetings, associations--my
> wife and kids are the exception--on the weekends.
>
> So when I break down out there in the middle of nowhere in a 1995 used
> jeep and don't much about their repairs, how am I going to get it
> fixed? What solutions do you folks recommend? The park ranger told me,
> "If you've never been out there on a jeep, get a yellow or orange one
> so we can find you when you get stuck..."** chuckle**.... he was a
> comedian I guess, but I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
> Novices going out there and getting into situations that they're not
> used to. I don't want to do any hard-core rock climbing because I
> really don't know how.
>
> So what do you folks think of that 1995 jeep? what should I look for?
>
> Thanks for you advice so far, you've been great.
>
> -Alex